Searching for USA "standard BO"

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Hi,as title I am searching a reliable standard BO of USA
I checked strategy wall and I cant find what I want
By checking rp is not viable neither since all the rps are not latest patch.
Also it seems like there is not too many USA rp that I can check.
So does anyone know the BO, a complete guide?thank you very much.
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The standard age 1 build is 16 vils age up with French immigrants I think. In age 2 you have options, not sure if there is a standard build.

On a map with a possible 3 TP stagecoach that's reasonably defensible, Chinese immigrants followed by a second card (capitalism, Irish at 5 minutes) is an alternative but much less common.

I don't think there is a standard age up state since none of the cards are really essential. If you want to go marines FF you need Virginia.
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Hi, try this:

*--- State militia Semi FF ---*
-can also regular, switch some wood vills for coin in transition

BO
-4 on wood

-send 3 cdb

16v up =( w virginia "perfect exe is 3.05 for 16v!"

_Transition_

-collect 300 food for spanish pikes
-send Spanish immigrants
-then 5 on coin for the pikes
-6+ on wood for 2 houses
-and 200 w for 5 SM in early Commerce

-when got 150c coin
-all but 1 cdb off to food

- queue 2 vills!
- 1 vill to tc for books!


Hit up II
-place tower
-if in age 2 add Flag!
-call MM
-send 8 SM

-build 5 SM

- send VIRGINIA STATE ASSEMBLY! before 700c
-(capitol gives a lot of xp when built)
-research statehood

- send 700c

CLICK UP to III w/ factory ageup / depends on MU

6+ on wood
5 on coin
rest food
- new vills on food
-usually spam regulars

- 1 to collect books!

Hit up III
- send 54th / gatlings / 8 regular
or fort + factory and age up
American Russian relations, 1k wood, US army and goons/uhlan shipments are also good to include in deck for age 3
other good cards are dutch immigrants, arsenal card, heavy fortifications, 2 HC

However it feels to me that US needs quite a bit of adaptation to be effective, Idk if theres really anything cookie cutter. Sometimes FI builds work, sometimes you dont need the early aggression. Don't ask about water :smile:

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I'd say the standard build (as the statistically most used one) is the simple naked FF.
3cdb | 700g | capitol card | 700w
Then in age3 it is usually the vet up card (5 regular + 4 militia), then 3 gatlings, etc.

The other go-to strat imo is the aggressive build with spanish immigrants.
3cdb | spanish immigrants | 8 militia |
Then you can send 700g to age up (you need 2 houses in transition then all vills are allocated just like an FF) or you can stay in age2 in which case you probably send 700w in stead of 700g.
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Virginia age up isn't needed anymore, that was back when the capitol card was state-specific. Now it's just a regular age 2 card. Virginia is still good with the bonus shipment card, but Pennsylvania for the church card (2.5c trickle free tech and some food-based sharpshooters and carbines) may be an alternative for games staying in age 2.

In the FF build, if you aged up with Virginia, you can fit in the 2 shipment card before the capitol and still get it and the 700w in time. You'll have an extra shipment available in early age 3 that way.

How does the math for Spanish add up? You're paying 300f, a card, and another 150f 150c to call the pikes. You're getting a tower, 6 pikes with a 10% strength bonus, and an XP trickle worth a TP and a half. Is that really worth so many resources this early in the game?
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sharpshootiesh build

<<Age Virgin>>

3 cdb / hamiltonian econ / capitol wagon / 2x shipments / advanced arsenal (optional), 2x towers (optional)

<<Age Kentucky Fried Chicken>>

[Greedy] 2x BH and 30% hunting / 2x coal mines / fort or 3x towers or sharpshitter upgrade

OR

[Not Greedy] Any combination of 3x gatlings/fort/3x towers to survive or do damage, then boom behind with blockhouse and coal mines

...
send 40 skirms for 500 res at 26 mins.

<<Age California>>
_______________________________________________________________
General Notes:

Call mm when 3/4 to age II if you'll get value out of them (if being rushed or good treasures or deny stagecoach or deny tower etc usually this is 85% of games) otherwise don't call mm to age to III faster.

Chop 200w in transition for house and market. Buy 100w after hamiltonian comes in only if you called mm, for a house.

Put infinite 2 towers in your deck it's lowkey better for defending than 5 regulars or 8 shitty SMs.

Magyars or bust. Forget about uhlans youll be winning every skirm war. Definitely need dragoons, but hard to transition to on account of needing a fort. Be wary of full cav.

This is weak to FIs. Rather than follow up right away, boom 3 TCs and make culvs, follow up later
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These are the build orders I've collected over time, from various sources.

1) FF
Age 1
- all starting vills to wood after collecting crates.
- Build a house, and get French immigrants (200w)
- All vills to food till age up (16vill)
Transition
- Build a house
- all vills on food and coin
- gather 300c for direct age up/gather 450coin for minutemen
Age 2
- send 700c
- get militiamen and take treasures or pressure opponent (not necessary always, can skip)
- send Virginia assembly and get the fast age up option
- age up to 3 with New Hampshire
Transition
- Depending on pressure, gather 100w for house and 200f 200w for factory
else
- Build a house, and queue a full batch of regulars
- Send either 1000w/regulars/factory

2) Aggressive
Age 1
- all starting vills to wood after collecting crates.
- Build a house, and get French immigrants (200w)
- All vills to food till age up (16vill)
Transition
- Gather 300f
- send Spanish immigrants, and place tower in forward location
- Put flag there
- Gather 150f 150c for pikes, send them.
- vills to food and wood, build a house.
- Now, ensure constant production of state militia and vills
Age 2
- send 700w, make houses, market, state militia
- move wood wills to food and coin
- send regulars/state militia and pikes whenever possible
- attack and do damage.
- send 700c to age up with New Hampshire
Transition
- Send Capitol, research Statehood, else Oregon Trail.
- Meanwhile keep making regulars
Age 3
-Any shipment needed.

3) TP line
Age 1
- Build tp, collect enough for a house and all vills to food.
- Send Chinese immigrants.
Note: Always keep an eye on tp levy ability to make more tps
- Send coin trickle.
Transition
- Gather for market and hunting dogs.
- Send Irish immigrants at 4:21.
- Gather for steel traps.
- gather food and wood for state militia.
Age 2
- send 700w
- build remaining tps and research stagecoach, put tps on wood.
- keep making state militias
- send units/arsenal ups depending on pressure
- send 700c
- make enough units to defend trade line and safely age up with New Hampshire

4) Coin trickle start
Age 1
- Leave 100w. All vills on food.
- Send Coin trickle.
Transition
- Put all on coin till 350c to send dutch immigrants.
- shift everyone onto food and wood, collect 100w for market.
- Get market upgrades when possible.
Age 2
- send 700w
- Rest, play as required.

5) Yukietty's Massachusettes agro build
- age up with Massachusetts Federal state with 16 vills.
transition
- all vills to food, till 300 food.
- send Spanish immigrants.
- collect 150c and send all vills to food and wood to make state militias, and houses.
age 2
- queue pike miniutemen
- send 3 pilgrims card, collect 300f when it arrives.
- send state militias.
- send 700w.

6) Boston tea party build by u/buckshot371

-French immigrants into age up with Massachusetts Federal State
-Build a house and get everyone on food
-If you need the extra range then send long rifles for sharpshooters now immediately and follow with Boston Tea Party(deposits 350 coin and exchanges all your current Food for 25% more Coin).
-If you're starting hussar or regulars, build your military building far enough away that you can place your flag at its base and THEN pop Boston Tea Party.
-Send Springfield Armory to get your unit upgrades while you mass.
-if you need Hamiltonian send it, if you need to age, age and play from there.

You will very often find you're able to ignore coin for a while as the tea party can easily give you anywhere between 1500 to 2000 of it.
thebritish wrote:
19 Jan 2016, 09:58
So, you are saying that if i watch H20's rec, i can beat anyone below H20's level because i know his BO?
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Also, please put this up on the strategy wall so everyone can access it when required. @mods
thebritish wrote:
19 Jan 2016, 09:58
So, you are saying that if i watch H20's rec, i can beat anyone below H20's level because i know his BO?
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Thrar wrote:
24 May 2022, 15:17
In the FF build, if you aged up with Virginia, you can fit in the 2 shipment card before the capitol and still get it and the 700w in time. You'll have an extra shipment available in early age 3 that way.
Pretty sure that's not possible unless you're dropping 2 TPs in transition which will artificially delay your age up time to age3 (defeating the purpose of sending the capitol card).
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Another possible build is the sharpshooter semi FF.

Age1 is just 3 cdbs and capitalism.
Transition is 2 tps+market (buy wood for hunting dogs and 2 houses).
Age2 is church card for gold trickle and 5 goons. Then 700g.
Aging to 3 (with one of the sharpshooter states) you get the 5 sharpshooters from the church. Send 700w and drop a stable and 3 houses. Get placer mines and steel traps (buy wood when needed)
Then in age3 just sharps+goons and other stuff.
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If you chop for market + hunting dogs + steel traps during transition you have time for the 2 shipment card. The capitol doesn't need to come before you click up, a few seconds after clicking is fine too. For a no-market FF I agree it doesn't fit.

In the sharpshooter semi I suppose you're sending the capitol after 700c? You're gathering over 2k food in age 2 (age up, 800f for the carbines, vils, and maybe MM), would it make sense to build only one TP and get steel traps immediately on hitting age 2?
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I pretty much always go for Pennsylvania to Age 2, the Cree shipment with 10% HP for all units is always good for 100 F 100 C it's cheap, and you get 5 CDBs to train also, all in one shipment!

I don't always go Spanish Img, it's expensive and if you want to go FF, you are better off waiting till you can get marines as they are a more helpful unit in Age 3. If you want to play age 2 agro with state militia, then deffo send the pikes, but Age 3 they are not as good.

The 2 shipment age up state is good on no TP maps to get ahead on shipments, but not always as impactful.

I always ship an age 3 factory, always. It's a factory come on.

I always ship 3 CDBs and you should too.

Never ship rolling art more than once.

I get that it feels easier to round out the composition by sending it a second time, but a factory, 1000 wood, 2 Russian blockhouses, and 10 goon/uhlan are just better shipments. It's really risky to use a shipment only to have your 2 Gatlings taken out by like 3 cav. If you ship factory/1000 wood first and you can build an artillery foundry then train gats.

If you are going Regular/Gatling composition try adding Huss. 5 huss can help make the falc-gatling war swing in your favour, plus you can raid with them. To do this I usually send Georgia huss shipment against some civs, (age 3 shipment= researches vet huss and makes them cheaper to train). I'm not entirely convinced it's a great shipment, but it is situationally perhaps good.

I play USA a lot, I'm fairly low elo, but I feel I know the civ well. :)
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Post by Zeus »

This should be added to strategy wall. It's a good post with great BOs for people who have been getting USA recently from all those free codes.
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In its current state I don't think this should be on the wall. There are some good builds in here, but also some rather questionable ones and articles on the wall shouldn't require the uninformed reader to sift through for themselves imo.

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