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This (kind of) thread was more topical at the launch of DE
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Adribird wrote:
06 Sep 2023, 15:00
This is what the player @horsedancingwithcrow wants in the game (I recommend that you synthesize it like this with a small plot development at each point, attach images, and start the thread politely and respectfully on the official forum).

1. Customization of in-game masks and backgrounds for a more visually appealing experience.
2. Improvement of the user interface (UI) design to create a more immersive and aesthetic atmosphere.
3. Restoration of the option to write in italics instead of using all capital letters in the UI.
4. Enhancement of the quality of in-game masks and backgrounds for a more authentic feeling.
5. Clarity on player ranks in the multiplayer lobby.
6. Functionality to sort and filter players by rank in the lobby.
7. Display the time of room creation in the lobby.
8. Indication of online status for players.
9. Visibility of clan members in the lobby.
10. Player search function in the lobby.
11. Improvement of the out-of-game chat system and the ability to log messages.
12. Removal of excessive censorship in chat and player names.
13. Improvement of matchmaking for balanced matches.
14. Prevention of pop-up windows from interrupting the matchmaking.
15. Easy access to chat during the post-game phase.
16. Restoration of an Elo rating system with historical match data.
17. Visibility of herd status updates beneath the explored fog of war.
:hmm: Look at that half of the list has already been recommended to devs for years, I myself seem to have opened a discussion on this = they didn't care about anything :sad: :cry:
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I like the part when he says he doesn't like DE
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horsedancingwithcrow wrote:
06 Sep 2023, 10:37
Yes sure, this post is wild, but people come in also with a respectful number of posts and start bickering and do like stupid baby gangs do on the street to try to pick you off and skirmish, burn them all and their absent families. Get some education and go working.
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if only devs gave a f or had brain,,

but neither is the case
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Auke1 wrote:
07 Sep 2023, 00:33
if only devs gave a f or had brain,,

but neither is the case
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iron_turtle wrote:
06 Sep 2023, 14:00
post this on official forum probably. big likes = devs might see it = half assed implementation 4 patches later.
@horsedancingwithcrow For real though, this. While ESOC is an alright place to discuss problematic features/patch changes (or the lack thereof) in detail, it isn't the right place if you want to be heard by the people in charge of DE. Most of us don't share your outrage anymore because we've been through that loop several times and, believe it or not, DE is in a much better state now than it was at launch. Most surely still agree with your points (once condensed to their essence), but I'd say many have reluctantly accepted the way it works by now.

So if you really want to reach someone in charge, better try your luck on the official forums. A bit more composure and snappiness in your presentation would also be advised.

If you just want to rage about the game, that's also fine. But expect 90% cynics here.
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He's been banned from the Steam forums more than once. I don't think he'll last long on the official forums either.
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Even when this user might be disrespectful he is right about many things. It's a joke we've been waiting for 3 years to get an online/offline friendlist (terrible compared to 2005 legacy).
I've said many times the lobby solution could be having 2 ranks:
-ELO rank only for qs (and maybe Tr lobbies)
-Replace this dispensable ''casual rank'' who nobody likes by the old military ranks we ALL loved in legacy (Sergeant, liutenant, major...) for lobby games. It's a nightmare to have a balanced casual team game.
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dansil92 wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 19:28
i asked chatgpt to summarize this thread because i cant be arsed to read it all
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The user is expressing strong dissatisfaction with the Definitive Edition of Age of Empires III and the state of its matchmaking system. They feel that the game's quality of life and fairness have declined, leading to a negative experience. They also criticize Microsoft for prioritizing profit over quality and accuse the game developers of being out of touch with the gaming community's needs. The user believes the game's changes have made it less competitive and enjoyable for experienced players. They are also critical of the gaming industry in general, suggesting it is driven by greed and lacks respect for players.
I mean the summary sounds quite on point...
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Adribird wrote:
06 Sep 2023, 15:00
This is what the player @horsedancingwithcrow wants in the game (I recommend that you synthesize it like this with a small plot development at each point, attach images, and start the thread politely and respectfully on the official forum).

1. Customization of in-game masks and backgrounds for a more visually appealing experience.
2. Improvement of the user interface (UI) design to create a more immersive and aesthetic atmosphere.
3. Restoration of the option to write in italics instead of using all capital letters in the UI.
4. Enhancement of the quality of in-game masks and backgrounds for a more authentic feeling.
5. Clarity on player ranks in the multiplayer lobby.
6. Functionality to sort and filter players by rank in the lobby.
7. Display the time of room creation in the lobby.
8. Indication of online status for players.
9. Visibility of clan members in the lobby.
10. Player search function in the lobby.
11. Improvement of the out-of-game chat system and the ability to log messages.
12. Removal of excessive censorship in chat and player names.
13. Improvement of matchmaking for balanced matches.
14. Prevention of pop-up windows from interrupting the matchmaking.
15. Easy access to chat during the post-game phase.
16. Restoration of an Elo rating system with historical match data.
17. Visibility of herd status updates beneath the explored fog of war.
Did you get that from ChatGPT or did you actually read all that?
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Stereo Typ wrote:
07 Sep 2023, 23:40
Adribird wrote:
06 Sep 2023, 15:00
This is what the player @horsedancingwithcrow wants in the game (I recommend that you synthesize it like this with a small plot development at each point, attach images, and start the thread politely and respectfully on the official forum).

1. Customization of in-game masks and backgrounds for a more visually appealing experience.
2. Improvement of the user interface (UI) design to create a more immersive and aesthetic atmosphere.
3. Restoration of the option to write in italics instead of using all capital letters in the UI.
4. Enhancement of the quality of in-game masks and backgrounds for a more authentic feeling.
5. Clarity on player ranks in the multiplayer lobby.
6. Functionality to sort and filter players by rank in the lobby.
7. Display the time of room creation in the lobby.
8. Indication of online status for players.
9. Visibility of clan members in the lobby.
10. Player search function in the lobby.
11. Improvement of the out-of-game chat system and the ability to log messages.
12. Removal of excessive censorship in chat and player names.
13. Improvement of matchmaking for balanced matches.
14. Prevention of pop-up windows from interrupting the matchmaking.
15. Easy access to chat during the post-game phase.
16. Restoration of an Elo rating system with historical match data.
17. Visibility of herd status updates beneath the explored fog of war.
Did you get that from ChatGPT or did you actually read all that?
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gibson wrote:
07 Sep 2023, 13:37
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Mildly inappropriate no?
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Garja wrote:
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I just hope DE is not going to implement all of the EP changes. Right now it is a big clusterfuck.
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yoqpasa wrote:
07 Sep 2023, 20:50
Even when this user might be disrespectful he is right about many things. It's a joke we've been waiting for 3 years to get an online/offline friendlist (terrible compared to 2005 legacy).
I've said many times the lobby solution could be having 2 ranks:
-ELO rank only for qs (and maybe Tr lobbies)
-Replace this dispensable ''casual rank'' who nobody likes by the old military ranks we ALL loved in legacy (Sergeant, liutenant, major...) for lobby games. It's a nightmare to have a balanced casual team game.
To get the old PR system back in lobbies would be a dream come true, the yellow flags mean nothing because they hold no numerical value, it's just wins vs noobs; if they kept it separate from quicksearch ranked who could possibly complain?
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I think it would be nice to have a military rank like TAD or a jewel grade like AOE4.
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Garja wrote:
06 Sep 2023, 17:29
This (kind of) thread was more topical at the launch of DE
E' vero Garja ma cosa ci posso fare? Non l'ho comprato all'inizio, non compro mai i giochi all'inzio, è una follia da una 10 d'anni ormai comprare giochi full price, puro beta testing o alpha testing (blatant) e anche arrogante da parte di produttori che scaricano tutto sui giocatori oggi senza piu una virgola di diritti né spesso di comprensione di cosa sia il game production cycle etc... (the problem indeed is also in the players accepting ANYTHING and do accept it in mass due to their passion, due to CGI abuse, and so on)

The problem here is that the exploitation of the players is still ongoing and it's advertised and held as legal and normal.

Somebody said that now these games rely on external tools to be "complete" like discord being in support of the non existen QoL and UI in terms of communication between players, player status etc.
Well, it's so funny this idea also contradicts the reality: we can't see the status of a player in the game if the player isn't in your friends. Sort of Privacy madness. I support privacy a lot, but this is just madness, you can't see the status of a player unless it's in your Steam friend list. . so the game doesn't really work doesn't have a online status system, nor a message log system.. don't let me start again.

Gonna read the other messages.
iron_turtle wrote:
06 Sep 2023, 14:00
post this on official forum probably. big likes = devs might see it = half assed implementation 4 patches later.
Appreciate your and many other positive attitude and can do mindset.

Sure.. games go in maintenance just after the release so devs do leave, but ..damn... this overhaul can be done. And it doesn't really affect the game.
It can even play in their horrible greedy Money making business for example by enabling specific masks of the game (only if well done I do support this - like handcrafted stuff for me only should be in games) so UI Masks, personalized look just little details and etchings of the edges of the UI.. for example if you have a mediterranean DLC u could have freely setting wheat or maybe an armor or some sea life,sea food on the UI ... anyway... there are tons of things that need to be done.. Not now exploiting again update .. an actual overhaul to make money .. so I bring myself back to non being devil advocate.

Thanks for your message as well as others I repeat.
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07 Sep 2023, 09:00
iron_turtle wrote:
06 Sep 2023, 14:00
post this on official forum probably. big likes = devs might see it = half assed implementation 4 patches later.
@horsedancingwithcrow For real though, this. While ESOC is an alright place to discuss problematic features/patch changes (or the lack thereof) in detail, it isn't the right place if you want to be heard by the people in charge of DE. Most of us don't share your outrage anymore because we've been through that loop several times and, believe it or not, DE is in a much better state now than it was at launch. Most surely still agree with your points (once condensed to their essence), but I'd say many have reluctantly accepted the way it works by now.

So if you really want to reach someone in charge, better try your luck on the official forums. A bit more composure and snappiness in your presentation would also be advised.

If you just want to rage about the game, that's also fine. But expect 90% cynics here.
... well yes, since my country is prisoner of cynism and abusers I can't really cope with that when I feel it. I play cynical in games but for immersing myself in a hyper realistic role playing (in some games), but when people use this for their own personal pleasure knowing they disturb psychologically other people I prefer beheading that trash.

Thanks for the advises. Glad many already have seen it.
Incredible that games do aim to make just money and they do it blatantly and they don't realize a fine made game does make so much money more than a game that is just oriented at grabbing them.
There was a video from Kingling .. once I saw for a matter I really know well even before the video and that explains clearly with a cultural mangement and business management interdisciplinary perspective plus the one of the insider Kinglink is, what it means to have the cost of using devs to produce art that is aimed to make money: you need that art to "rotate" as an investment, and the hours of work in the creation of that MTX-art needs to generate money. Producers task devs to do this, and lead execute this, devs do spend time making assets that cost and thus need to be recovered with players spending time and money on that, instead to make a proper game that actually sells itself by just being good. It's not nostalgy saying "in the past it was better... it actually was game design". Today what is done is not-actual game design, but something else. (procedural loot, procedural lacklusters)


Yes there are improvements in the game itself, the gameplay has been one of the focus, but damn, how can they forget the entire structure over which, sort of stage, the whole gameplay does play?! It's MICROSOFT, it's not like an indie company!! Not even indie companie do this to the players.
yoqpasa wrote:
07 Sep 2023, 20:50
Even when this user might be disrespectful he is right about many things. It's a joke we've been waiting for 3 years to get an online/offline friendlist (terrible compared to 2005 legacy).
I've said many times the lobby solution could be having 2 ranks:
-ELO rank only for qs (and maybe Tr lobbies)
-Replace this dispensable ''casual rank'' who nobody likes by the old military ranks we ALL loved in legacy (Sergeant, liutenant, major...) for lobby games. It's a nightmare to have a balanced casual team game.
Yes...
TIME... TIME IS DAMN PRECIOUS; do they think we are 10 years old.. not even at 10 years old you can waste time nowdays due to competition. (I am exaggerating on 10 years old).. but I mean at 15 you are already at working age and gotta decide what you wanna do pretty soon after...
I mean we have no time to waste.. and these people "Beta test" games on adults that maybe have to raise kids?! We are parents, kids, students, workers, in pension maybe, or unemployed and we wanna play and instead they make us waste our time.
Time is precious and you make us launch a game to "collect resources for 10 minutes a wait of 2-5 minutes to organize it if not more or less) and after 20 minutes we have done nothing as at 9 someone just tapped out of the game or simply it wasn't balanced.

The ranking system was definitely CUT Throat.. if I may say, it was harsh but it was clear, it was damn clear and precise, more transparent.
If you wanna keep what you have now, dear devs, then damn use well that casual games based rank by EXPLAINING what is what.

It's incredible that we need Absolutely the support of AOE3Explorer in order to know something about someone. And I don't complain on that.
At least make easy to use chat, use wishpers, use post game in a Interfunctional way, use the main 6 instances multiplayer lobby seamlessly, use a server for message logs, removes censorship that denies knowing who you played against (that even hides hackers potentially?!) ... I mean.. I want to write a message to ### ### ##### ### player and I can't! I can't befriend him\her... How can you be so ....?!

It's like Ulysses breaking the Polyphemus one eyed cyclope(s)... how can you create such a non sense in a RTS game?! And there are several.
I need to click 4 times after selecting Wishper to someone before being able to write in the box!

I mean did you read the classics? Did you studied? Or you just have been raised to program something.

Without some studies your imagination of all the cases will not be there and you can't produce good stuff. Unless you have an innate ability to imagine anything which is anyway rare.
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horsedancingwithcrow wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 18:54
What did you just say? People farm it anyway. (here it comes the New World Invader spirit and South Africa colonialist Dutch spirit of the Prohibitionist and censor man... how amazing!)

This is not at all something that block the ladder from being biased (I also posted earlier on this topic, in the original message you are too superior to read.), it's full of people (that don't belong at a certain level.. .it's completely messed up.. and what you do?^ Like "Commerce Age" you introduce (in that case censorship and lip job) PROHIBITIONISM, in this case I am talking about, to avoid people from farming, and so you damage all the rest that want to play a damn (RANKED SUPREMACY CLASSIC GAME, THE ROOT OF RTS AOE 3) game in a few seconds and organize maybe even challenging big rivals? .. you do that? Don't embarass yourself further, please do it for your name.


Wonderful, you maybe are so rich or maybe steal money in your life for aliving? That you can maybe wait 5-6 (when it goes well, otherwise you gotta wait 10 - 15 minutes.. some told me they waited 30 minutes!!) minutes for a matchmaking to be fulfilling a game start (and what a shit game is a random one!) when a match can be set up and played in maybe 1-2 minutes MAX. and also you will not have that frustration that you SHOULD HAVE once you realize who are the contenders (after the game devs thought "intelligently" to hide players level in the matchmaking system and in general so they made ACTIVELY EVERYUTHING to hide your that someone else was 100-200 Elorating ABOVE YOU!).. instead if you set the game and you are not a farmer of points like you accuse everyone to potentially be (you silly naive cheater hunter blablabla, grow up make us a favor)... you won't be frustrated because YOU yourself have created the match and you know it's a challenge, it's a competition YOU ACCEPTED and you greened up it.

matchmaking is not a bad idea but it has been not made properly and there are not enough players probably to make encounters fair.
I LITERALLY found people that are 1300 1200 when I am a 1000 scarce maybe 1100 and I played with 980. sometime a 850!!! WHAT THE HELL? Also
the first 10 games DO INFLATE your score so you are bound to create waves of unfair games by that, by DESIGN!!! THis surpasses all faults of these pseudo developers that have zeor understanding what they have done.

The fact thjat developers haven't thought this shows how poor is the brainstorming, the work in the office, the talks between devs. This is just a CASH Cow project and people should and will know this. You can shut us down in any way we will be everywhere and all over the world to put this clearly in reviews in systems you can hunt for this, but if you are in this project protecting this UTTER SCAM, that should be AS SOON AS POSSIBLE REHAULED GRATUITOSLY, then you are in for a big roller coster because we won't stop mentioning this... MEta critics 125 positives? Whaaaaat!!!!!?????!?!!!! (In fact I am glad to read, happy like a excited dog that reviews on meta critics in the negative exactly show my same disappointment, in a non composed way as I am here, sorry, but yea.. they have the same understanding because they are MATURE PLAYERS with experience, not kiddos or fan boys or with conflict of interest .. you know right?)

Instead the matchmaking is unfair as it's algo are fkd up, clearly. The entire thing is like going in front of a shooting platoon and getting killed for last one after all your team mate have been massacrated before in front of your eyes. This is the level of frustration. You also are put into a POOL of toxicity because getting to be put with someone that doesn't really want to play and if you are not good or if he realizes he's not gonna win starts to insult your or just leaves.. that is just the icing on the cake..

Or you live in a cave or you don't understand how to make game work properly.. I "believe"

The Forgotten Empires and Tantalus Media thought they were going to REINVENT THE WHEEL. (Breathe in, breathe out)

Probably because in USA, damn USA, yes damn them all, they thoughtr that they were going to law suit on them if they were going to give the definitive edition the same exact structure of the previous game (Copyright money making lawsuits Oh-oh.. yoiu know well USA that how greedy you are so greedy that Copyright is more important than ALL ELSE!!) , so they thought, why not making it different "it will work anyway".. hell no.. it doesn't work and it's HYPER stupid casual perfect zone. People that have zeor understanding of SPORTMANLIKE CONDUCT, of COMPETITION, of DAMN FKN GG.

GG, not even that people say, and just leave and leave you with the sour flavor in the mouth. I wish it was just this non GG feeling. I wish.

This is the worse thing ever developed in last years one of the worse and the genie "In the bottle" of these outrageous projects seems always ready to push more trash for us all out.. and people are ready to "buy" this "Stuff".

you can stop anything you can try to hid anything but one thing is sure: Microsoft is gonna get pale like the ESOC background forum board when they will understand what the have relesed ( and it's 3 years late to understand it).


THis GAME is so ruined that it plays cool (I admit it and looks cool and well) only in the SHOW WINDOWS of Lion Heart and a few others. Yes in show windows, world is a show window fake. Because today it's all false. People developing games? There are just a few true hard working, the rest try to introduce their white washing by using games as propaganda, maybe they remove the russian translation like Microsoft did with Bethesda Starfield, or maybe Commerce age becomes the old Colonial (raping and massacres) age... because after all we need to blind our kids from where we come from... because they should treat humans as objects after all, it's a good thing.
USA still putting covers over women nipples, this is where this game comes from... a retrograde turbo capitalist bent Kultur that is clearly dying and in need of some refreshment before it bents so much it makes a somersault in the darkness of the abyss it dug itself.
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Another missing feature is the ability to look up a player (or see their medals!) and check out decks etc. This is also useful for adding people or when afk in a lobby and they spam 11 and you need to re invite.
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One mega incredible thing is that they do not allow to see the cards that have been used (even by the own user!) So when you finish a game u get a XP reward and see not only a fake number of shipments available that haven't been launched yet, and that you are not actually in game able to launch as the number may raise from 0 or 1 to 4. or ever 5-6
but also most importantly, it doesn't allow you to see what actual CARDS you have USED during the game! The ones you have clicked!

It's like they made a game for casuals.. who cares what one does or the strategy, just make people play and as I say "gather resources with little vills on a screen..." so nerdish.
This is a RTS not collecting things in front of a screen.. it's not Simulation of a historical city ...
so...

-Allow players to see how actually shipments they had available without that end game xp "boost" which making the shipment available become 5-6 when instead we had maybe 1 to send or 2 instead. Do not make the XP kick in at the end of the game basically so we can see the actual number of shipments we had available to send maybe 0 maybe 1 maybe they were 2.. who knows.

-ALlow players to see (only the owners I guess..) what cards they have used. and also allow the player to see WHAT ORDER (have them numbered 1 to 25) what cards have been used... if you want you can even show a time marker like 3rd minute, 5th minute etc etc... so one has 2 information in one like this: the order and also when that "Xp was reached enabling the use of the card".

-Allow replay of the games to be rerolled back without having the player to shut down the replay and start it again.
Make replays please a little lighter maybe? .. they are so heavy.

-Also allow players to set a themed TIME MARKER BAR, So they can move the time of the game recording to the moment something has happened (you can allow us to see on the bar, a "Age up" you can allow us to see fights, you can allow us to see when vills have been killed?... So it's easy for replay to go see what happened when and see how that happened.

On the time bar this would allow for a more informed replay checking.

It's not frustration, it's just education: some people are accustomed with low quality stuff and they just don't care, they have not time to speak about what is good what is bad what is needed, some come from work and that's it... Others still know and actually we deserve good stuff and this cannot be called a releasable game.

A game that posts CIVS in DLC and boosts them in order to have the DLC being sold... I mean, are you nuts? How can't you see the huge scam and really low integrity practices? It's quite evident.
A company to sell a RTS game DLC what does? Makes Civs that are on steroids to sell more that DLC... Instead to actually finish polishing the lobby, the multiplayer, and so on... Many of the things to be done are listed in the summary some of the players made of my or other people suggestions.

Fortunately one ofthe things I cannot stay mute on is that now I can play with South Korea, with anyone connecting to USA, Australia, Brazil.. anybody no lag, no issues. No more disconnections, which were a horrible waste of time for people who decided to use their spare time playing this game.
They must have worked on net code and also got good servers... Fortunately!!
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Re: Definitive edition is so DISRESPECTFUL it stinks

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A friend sent me this.. it was 2020-..- 2021..
I mean everyone noted there was some messy UI which is still there and the general graphical design not just that but also functionality is completely a TORTURE.

https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-u ... eas/176858

How can people tread on us like this and keepstepping over player heads and hands like it was all normal?!!!
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Re: Definitive edition is so DISRESPECTFUL it stinks

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horsedancingwithcrow wrote:
01 Oct 2023, 18:36
A friend sent me this.. it was 2020-..- 2021..
I mean everyone noted there was some messy UI which is still there and the general graphical design not just that but also functionality is completely a TORTURE.

https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/new-u ... eas/176858

How can people tread on us like this and keepstepping over player heads and hands like it was all normal?!!!
don't care lol also that UI looks ugly as shit
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Re: Definitive edition is so DISRESPECTFUL it stinks

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I agree... Legacy UI and QoL was just what was needed. The "new" features or mechanisms that were introduced are not bad ideas but some stuff is Utter trash. How chat, works, how various stuff cannot overlap and does cancel other windows. That is pure trash.
One can't even rewind a REC game and the GPU and CPU do get super heated... and I have a good PC.. it's just madness.. I can't send back a video rec?! Because... WHY? THE HELL.. It's like "WE WANNA KILL THIS RTS" let us do it "with style".

Tantalus Media and Forgotten Empires I really hope these people get an education on how to do games. THey have made a DISASTER. The Lead Designer is also heavily responsible of how this "project" has gone.

We live in hyper text time with tons of windows open, like in a browser, we live like browsers and this game doesn't allow to browse a Multiplayer lobby?! This is PURE MADNESS!
Those yellow contours \ edges ... I hate them (this is a graphical criticque as I said already) but in terms of functionality it is even worse...
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Re: Definitive edition is so DISRESPECTFUL it stinks

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horsedancingwithcrow wrote:
01 Oct 2023, 20:28
doesn't allow to browse a Multiplayer lobby?!
There might be some strong technical reasons why this doesn't work yet. If it was that easy to implement, I'd expect they would have already done it.
Having such a bird's eye view on all opened lobbies and all logged in users that are in a game probably uses more resources or requires some kind of multiplexing implementation between the server and the user that just hasn't been done yet.
And since they had to rewrite the whole networking part from scratch, they can't just take stuff from the old one, because it was a wholly different ecosystem.
They probably just have a super-small team of devs and most of their time was invested in features that impress new players, like lots of civs with a truckload of units and features, graphical bling and new maps. That's what makes customers watch YT videos with AOE3 DE content and activates the neuron that moves the finger to press the Buy button.

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