Definitive edition is so DISRESPECTFUL it stinks

[fightinfrenchman]

it was that easy to implement, I'd expect they would have already done it.

I say this to myself about all sorts of things every day but it never makes any more sense really

[Dolan]

it was that easy to implement, I'd expect they would have already done it.

I say this to myself about all sorts of things every day but it never makes any more sense really

Then I wrote that they have a small team and invested most of their work on stuff they think will sell this niche game more. Those who buy it mostly have no idea there was a legacy version with a UI that included lobbies, online buddies list, etc.
These new buyers can't miss things they never saw

[horsedancingwithcrow]

Yea.. exactly,(I refer to page 2 last post by Dolan) glad there is people that are awakened, true citizens of this world and at least of this theme. yeah u very well explain in a brief way how the exploit the fog of profit making rogue developing.

Anyway... I was checking a "small" detail ,and believe it or not the relation with the quote is very close in terms of topic.
If you go in the lobby and search stuff, you usually look for a specific game right? it's a rethorical question.
I guess one wants to train and warm up a bit, or maybe doesn't even consider slightly to play rated\ranked so I guess that's what they\we do: play random. Ok, this said, I wanna mark another EPIC FAIL of the design that makes people waste time doing this.

You actually are looking for a game and one of the "filter" you use in your mind is "I wanna play 2 v 2 .. " .. I wanna play 4 ffa.. I wanna play 1 v 1 I wanna play a 3 v 3 (so it's respectively 4 players max, 4 players max, 2 players, and 6 players).

You surely follow me so far.

Simply put: they do actually programmed the lobby to show the DAMN number of PEOPLE IN A ROOM! instead to actually show in order of the denominator, the number to be reached. Like this you are fed a USELESS information that orders in decreasing or increasing order the NUMERATOR of the players in the room.

This is incredible deficit of understanding WHAT THEY ARE DOING from programmers of this "game".

You wanna show rooms IN THE ORDER OF THE DENOMINATOR (the second number) after the \2 \3 \4 \5 \6 ... this one not the prior one if you wanna give an interesting info USEFUL for the player that is searching in the lobby a game because I DON't Care to enter a room based on how many are missing (that is a secondary choice!!!)

First choice is WHAT TYPE OF GAME I WANNA PLAY.

The designers of this are clearly a bunch of unable to play nor set rules to design a game or a meta \ pre game stuff, it's like they were removed the capacity to understand what they are doing and thrown there to make money for Microsoft and we? We buy this? Don't buy this. Just don't. Don't support these killers of video games. These are LITERALLY KILLERS.

You wanna tell me the numbers of MAX PLAYERS in a room (denominator) in order to allow me to choose what I want and REACH WHAT I WANT, I want to go for a 2 v 2 then I look for the lobby to order the "players" along how max players they are going to be playing. If I press the second banner in the listing lobby system it will make the rooms be ordered on HOW MANY PLAYERS they have which has non sense.
So I need to search for rooms that have 3 players on 4 or anyway I will have my OBJECTIVE distributed along the entire set of rooms of the lobby because a 4 room I am looking for can be on top or on the bottom or mid..or anywhare.. this is seriously catastrophic NON DESIGN by Who made this thing.

These people have never played games and if these continue making games ... well just stop playing.

This is like they were throwing at people rubbish and people even bought it.

Why you all don't do NEGATIVE LOW reviews. I did and my friends did, do it go in Steam Valve Corp distribution platform and put negative reviews, Go in Meta critic ( https://www.metacritic.com/game/age-of- ... latform=pc) and bash this insult to game design, explain your points, make it clear and throw them where they c an never return from. This is a horror.

Orrific insult to players ... there is really no damn dignity today in people, I am disgusted to what is happening to humans. Disgusted.

[horsedancingwithcrow]

Seriously, to all of you, I believe we are still in time to help the future of games.
Can anybody share a few minutes to write a short but powerful and UNEQUIVOCAL message in a short letter to raise the attention over this TOTALLY forgotten Age of Empire III DE case that we will send to Phil Spencer? Do you agree? We can take the address and write it in the name of ESOC, name of several communities if leaders do sign for this. and we just send it. It's not a joke. They will realize what they have done.
They must realize it because IT IS MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE they are aware of what they have done.

let's write it, let's use properly the language so that it directs clear message to what are the missing elements of this project so much it cannot even be considered an alpha. It's not even a mobile game level stuff I believe.

Let's contact Xbox Microsoft and make things clear, NEVER AGAIN and DO RECOVER FROM THIS or this should be known with all the money they gave to all the Critics /payed by them\ in order to be silent of this mess.

[dicktator_]

Didn't read all that but throughout the past three years there have been and still are plenty of people making their case known about their various grievances about DE. Some of these have been addressed well, some have been addressed poorly, and some not at all. The point is that the pace at which the devs are working on DE as well as the overall goals of the people in charge have already been made clear. If you don't like it no one's forcing you to play it. I'm still pretty sad about how DE's release was botched, and how the game was not able to reach it's full potential. But at the same time, the original game came out in 2005, and Age of Empires 3 was the least popular out of the main 3 aoe games, so it's kind of crazy that we are still getting anything at all.

Plenty of new RTS coming out over the next few years btw

[horsedancingwithcrow]

"If you don't like it no one's forcing you to play it."

I will address this answer with the harshness it needs to be addressed with with all the respect because it's unacceptable people keep repeating insults online and they are not addressed.

My passion forces me to play it, and let me tell you it clearly as I promised to do just above: if you have nothing to say, you are not forced to say speak, you don't have absolutely to say something" (if you have not something to say).
You cannot tell me what I should do or not do about a game, or if I should play or not play, or ask for having a better game.
I will not be calm on major issues. This stuff is like saying hey I am selling you snake oil and call it a game... and you gladly or less gladly accept it.

i don't care about other RTS. I am not looking to play other sincerely at the moment nor in the future I think. I play since AOE I, actually the game previous to AOE I which was Roman empire I think or something else, for me it's about culture, not about "spending my time with RTSs" and it's not just me.

No we are not lucky we are getting still something, they are lucky that people wrote positive things on the software beta they released which we are playing. Mods make it a bit better, and this is SOLD BY MICROSOFT. I repeat, MICROSOFT.

I should not add, nor have added else. It's unacceptable level of standards. "They are lucky there are people like you who lost compeltely the way, nor have idea what is a compass or what are the principle of game design and the ethics of BUSINESS".

A good game sells. DLCs are the poisonous microtransactions that have polluted and destroyed videogames and eradicated players from the gaming scene, moving into what is more a performer world made of money makers (on all sides). And in gaming there must be no sides: the developers should know the game they are making, play it, know it as their hand's palms and players should shut up and enjoy.
Instead we are here to make the role of devs, while devs are turbo capitalist finance thugs.

[alistairpeter]

Well if you are looking for a better game, I know a few called Age of Empire III the Asian Dynasties, Age of Empire III the Warchiefs (2 pop 'darmes), and Age of Empires III; they're like DE but better.

[fightinfrenchman]

"If you don't like it no one's forcing you to play it."

I will address this answer with the harshness it needs to be addressed with with all the respect because it's unacceptable people keep repeating insults online and they are not addressed.

Get his ass

[horsedancingwithcrow]

Well if you are looking for a better game, I know a few called Age of Empire III the Asian Dynasties, Age of Empire III the Warchiefs (2 pop 'darmes), and Age of Empires III; they're like DE but better.

I... I, we, all played those games, I would not "uber" talk like this of something if I wasn't playing games since 30 years and more and I wasn't actually an AOE player even before AOE I, I would not dare to suggest and notice what is wrong.
AoE III DE is not a Definitive edition and people need to state that in MEtacritic and Steam reviews and wherever they can also write to totally unaware authors on "review" pseudo newspaper for videogames, @ at them on twitter and so on, it's just 3 years now after its release and it cannot be that nobody cares. Nobody cares means the most of us that do not talk are poisoning the river.
The cycle is made of critical approach to something that doesn't work otherwise more of it will be made and more will use the (cash cow) formula of I make a generally unfinished game, sell Ultra edition, extended edition, other "prestige" stuff down to the standard edition and also add several DLC in it, release it as a non game and wait for the new generation that do not know nothing or also old generations to buy this...

most people have zero background of videogames and buy, and do not criticize. I bought but I WOULD NEVER have expected a game not to have an ONLINE status nor a message log, these are the BARE minimal services a game must give not to kill its own self. COMMUNITY first. Ok the mods, ok discord, but you must give stuff as a standard, well made otherwise what are you doing is disrespect the game design ethics, the standards and you are damaging also your own profits.
People would play more, would create NEW communities, would battle, would spend more time.
This game wastes the time... how can people not understand an IN GAME system for online status is crucial?
A message log.
An easy invite system.

The possibility to navigate like an hypertext allows since 50 years now or more... no! I have to open a page at a time or my entire process of matchmaking will stop!
This stuff is unprecedented and Microsoft Nardella is behind this. And he hires AI expert blablaGOLDENSTEIN just to remind how greedy and unapologetically criminal he is, this company has to be barred from producing videogames and buying other developer houses...

What a shame.

[fightinfrenchman]

This stuff is unprecedented and Microsoft Nardella is behind this. And he hires AI expert blablaGOLDENSTEIN just to remind how greedy and unapologetically criminal he is,

I agree that the UX changes are bad but you're kind of losing me here ngl

[harcha]

@horsedancingwithcrow i didn't read most of it but that line was a bit of a gamer moment

[gibson]

Critical thinking skill were nowhere to be found

[horsedancingwithcrow]

If you people do care, then do write on STeam Store Page of AOE and press the flag on the bottom right (mid page) and report for violations explaining what is wrong to Steam.

Also use Metacritic.com and write a review.

Also go in https://support.ageofempires.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

And send them a proper report of what is missing.

I mean how can you not understand these things. WHy people are so greedily utilitaristic, individualists?

How can you not see that the lack of a player search, a online offline status, taking 5 clicks before being able to wishper someone and reach the text box, and then also being met from a "no there is no offline message log" becuase the player is offline, all this stuff is not working and would help so much the player.. II have mentioned so many things...

They are so evident.

Where do you people come from? A cave?
Seriously how can you think this is a game and being ok with that?
Humans really got quite low, it's not me, it's really you are missing what is the purpose of acommunity and of a game.

It's disgusting how people have become. Maybe a big fratricide will clean all this disgusting FUBAR situation, of inaction, and extremely egocentrical mass of non sensical zombies.

No.. violence will never fix anything but your passivity your "there is nothing to do" and other trolling, all these people also silent just reading, you are violent, you are the problem.

If u were doing your part a players WHICH YOU ARE NOT, and probably never have been or forgot to be so, then we would not be in this situations.

It's a shame Microsoft publish a game like this and then even builds a DLC program for earning over it.

It's like SHOOTING ON THE RED CROSS and bragging about it.
Oh .. i Forgot there is israel that is doing this and everyone is ok with it.

OH AND LET ME TELL YOU WITH CAPITAL LETTERS:

I don't care "I lost you" at this or that. You are not supposed to support me, but the community, because if you claim to be a player you are a sportman, you know that we need better quality anmd if you call this game finished then you have a big problem.
It's no a PERSONAL crusade, I don't need a populist crowd behind me I KNOW WHAT IS SAY IS SACREDLY TRUE because this stuff is so blatantly spitting in people face that it's like a plague an epidemic, it's sick what they ahve done to this game and even when a bug comes out..

No hot fix when the rule in game design is 24h max 2 days...
This is not beta testing, And even if it was this game is DRAFT being released!!

How can you be ok with htis..

HOW CAN: THE HELL PEOPLE BUY DLC from this? It telsl a lot of what people are... like education below the ground. We have become a community of a bunch of masochists.. not really a community.

Dman use your powers and write a letter, write a review do the damn vote, do the damn part, do you speak english? then write Microsoft, write a review use steam tools to prevent this from going on. It's incredible How everybody feels like there is a higher power controlling everything and they let it go.

You must be so succesful in your lives and I doubt the manners you reach that success that you let other abusers to do what they want with us..

That is called "straw tail" in my country, literally speaking.. I won't search now for the exact translation (non literal).

If you fear something then you fear to do what is correct to do.
So lazy so passive and cynical it' just stinks..

How can people not see a game cannot work like this?!
There are crucial parts that need to be developed and polished...
CMON!!

[callentournies]

together we can change the world