British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
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British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
British Guide
Contents
1) Introduction
2) Deck
3) Age 1
4) Build Order
5) Match Ups
1) Introduction
Arriving in 2005, British is a very particular civ distinguished above all by being GUA's main squeeze, with a powerful eco thanks to copulating houses and a church card army that would make even kerimb1903 jealous. Britain is also aiz's main squeeze and mine.
This guide is for players who would like a good base to start with British and I hope it helps. Nothing fancy, just the basics.
2) Deck
1v1 Deck
1v1 water
1v1 eco
1v1 IV
Just some standard decks for different flavors of the game, pretty self explanatory.
3) Age 1
42 vills age up with market, gang saw, and hunting dogs
This age 1 is for standard Brit. Hotkeying "bild manor" is important.
After collecting your crates build your first copulating house and a market ASAP BUT you need to build them in a particular way. They are the cornerstone of your defense and I recommend they're placed in front of your TC, but not too far, probably within TC firing range and contiguous (that units cannot path between them) and with foreknowledge of how the rest of your copulating houses will be built from this position. Protect a tree line if at all possible. More on this later. Put your vills on food and research gang saw. After gang saw is done and you've queued another vill, move your vills over to wood except for 5 for constant villager production. Use your hero to walk around. Get treasures but also get LOS for wall building, around your base.
Keep chopping as much wood as you can and making villagers. Your first card will be (1) Viriginia Company. You want to bild more copulating manors in rapid succession in a wall. Make sure this wall doesn't impede villager walking time (you cannot build a gate in a copulating house). So for instance if you have a bunch of vills chopping wood on the other side of the manor wall, and you will need to eventually move them on the inside part of the manor wall, maybe leave a gap and fill it in later but not too late. Think of a manor-wall as two layers of pallisade walls which break into smaller pieces.
OK even with all this nerfed-ass Virginia Company manor XP you'll soon have your next shipment, (2) 3 Villagers. Keep chopping wood and building manors in a wall. Try to get a small coin treasure for HD.
You want a continuous perimeter defense before the opponent has units in your base. Not all opponents will have units in your base at the same time. Most opponents will have units in your base before you can make 20 sexual houses, so you will need to start walling now and finish manor booming later. You will use pallisade walls to distance the gaps the manors cannot. For noob boobs tell yourself, "better safe than sorry." For high-GK oven-checkers (deep GUA reference), you will greed ovulating cottages as much as you can and build the walls at just the right time, for thrills that the drugs can't provide.
Your third card is (3) Town Militia (fka Colonial Militia and as habit oft writ as "CM" fyi). This is to kill things with your TC. You can't kill things unless they are in range of your TC. So when the opponent starts attacking a part of the perimeter defense, and it is outside TC range, you will need to build more walls closer to your TC. Like so.
This is what it might look like in a real geam.
CM TC fire is so effective you always want to do it if they are in range. And you have 42 vill and they have 12. Call small mm if needed. Exercise restraint in calling the large batch of MM. This is really not cost effective unless you get an insane trade, and will slow you down and eat your mines, but better than losing your only TC. Basically if I need to call big MM and they aren't all-in I've messed something up. Two years ago I made this thread: viewtopic.php?p=514474 . curious.
Learn to wall (and re-wall) like a pro sinner with [Roayl] JAILEDaoe's Advanced Walling Tips and Tricks (1) and (2): |
A lot of your apm will be spent on re-walling, retasking vills, not losing vills, repenting, and etc., but if you have extra apm, you can micro the TC onto the highest priority units and/or use your hero (and age up tower, when it comes), to finish off low HP units from TC, to avoid over killing with CM TC damage.
You don't age until you've built 20 horny homes, or at least 17-18 ish. Always age with 200c and tower. Get great coats if you didn't need it already and placer mines. Put most/all of your vills on food/coin to go straight III after hitting II. But you want to chop for steel traps and a church and more walls if you think they're needed.
Smell the flowers. No one has ever stayed age 1 as long as you have and won a game.
Tower placement matters. You can either tower in base for immediate defensive DPS, or tower to your next closest coin mine to ship your age 3 TC to, or you can shift click your tower around the map to act as a proxy shipment point to base trade later. I usually stick to close tower or 2nd mine tower. If I want a proxy tower I will use a vill later to build it.
Pioneers is obselete, however, if you get otto gren rushed and lose your TC in age 1, pioneers may be helpful (yes, this did happen to me and I won). GMT is an adaptation for specific maps and MUs. If your opponent makes 5 units the card is kind of wasted. If the opponent does nothing about GMT and you get 3+ TPs it makes the build 20%+ better, straight up. You ship GMT instead of CM and ship CM after.
This completes the age 1 portion of the standard British opening. The rest of the build order is trivial and left as an exercise to the reader.
Tips
Never 15-16v age up. You gain nothing to 15-16v age up. You are too fast and in a hurry. If you play vs fc (fast commerce) or ff (fast fortress) console yourself say, "age is just a number" and breathe.
Walls > outposts. I used to do this bild without walls, and with outposts. Then all of my vills were endlessly idled in a building 50x more expensive. Now they aren't and it's good (for me).
Always go III with a 2nd TC, for more CM firing and in case need to age IV from there.
6 Lbows + (enough) walls (+ CM) > any age 2 rush in the game
Incorporate natural obstacles into your walling to save resources (cliffs, TP sockets, mines)
Vs ff falc timings, you want SEVERAL layers of walls right in front of your TC, to buy your TC time to CM fire at the falcs, and prevent the infantry from mass seiging TC. Then call highlanders or CM to hold, or with 2 falc of your own. 2 falc + (enough) walls (+CM) > 2 falc 40 musk. See example: https://www.twitch.tv/callenapexlegends ... &sort=time
Forts take too long to build and require too large of a footprint (ideally your base has too many walls to build one) and I rarely if ever ship it, but it is good for prolonged surviving in age 3 to secure more res situationally.
If unpressured or lightly pressured try to queue age IV before shipping highlanders. You want to get age IV. You try to go immediately IV after reaching III.
Shib Gentlemen of Le Pike! Shib 20 lbow (into rangers)! Shib 3 rocket!
5) Match Ups :
This mu is very hard, in general fre want to 12/10 ff and go church card gren rush from outpost. It is simply too overpowered for brit to do anything about it. Consider shipping 7 shitty huss and time with CM. Avoid playing when Alvarow is in queue. Still, there's room to outplay.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
This mu is quite ez for Britain but not unlosable, you have to start 42 vill in age 1 and build some walls, then some more walls, then you need to TC fire their falcs down and call small mm or highlanders or something. if you can do that just go IV after and type gg ez.
Recommended Build : 42v age 1 FI
Traditionally this is an historical match up where the meta was 700w 600w bow pike. While those cards do exist in aoe3 DE I don't have them in my deck them and prefer to make 42 villagers in age1. dutch will probably out eco ngl but they then have to build a barracks and train their units 5 at a time instead of research 36 and ship 20, so you will out spike powerfully in early IV. consider a proxy outpost or two. banks cant move but vills can.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
This mu is a coin flip. whoever 3 rockets 3 rocket rockets and clicks guard ranger first wins.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
quite an ez MU since uhlans die to CM TCs, therefore recommend a total defensive perimeter and 42 vills. Just watch out for an early 2 uhlan from a nerdy 16v german player. beware of GUA imposters 7 falcing your ass too, then the 2nd TC and 3 rockets come in handy. Actually, sometimes vs GUA imposters you need to make a pit-stop in age 3 and train a culv. When this is happening just pretend youre playing port-style organ-gun/artillery only challenge and you'll be alright.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
deeply complex match up especially with the multitude of port build orders on the ladder. there are several ways you can play it, of course, but can't go too wrong with maxing manors in age 1 and FIing, shipping 2 falc to deal with 3 organs.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
Mu is hard just because of grens that smartly bonus even harder vs buildings. Some would suggest not building so many buildings then. I'd suggest building more.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
If you lose this MU I come into your life as a sleep paralysis demon and make you dream that you can't close a gap in your wall no matter how hard and 100 suvrov ruskets march in and raze your TC and all of your vill are dying but you're clicking them away but they're all dying and you're clicking and clicking, and they're dying and dying, every night, 100 res short of hitting IV and never getting that age up in queue.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
MU is close depending on if you're playing Frontline or not.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
shitpost over.
Contents
1) Introduction
2) Deck
3) Age 1
4) Build Order
5) Match Ups
1) Introduction
Arriving in 2005, British is a very particular civ distinguished above all by being GUA's main squeeze, with a powerful eco thanks to copulating houses and a church card army that would make even kerimb1903 jealous. Britain is also aiz's main squeeze and mine.
This guide is for players who would like a good base to start with British and I hope it helps. Nothing fancy, just the basics.
2) Deck
1v1 Deck
1v1 water
1v1 eco
1v1 IV
Just some standard decks for different flavors of the game, pretty self explanatory.
3) Age 1
42 vills age up with market, gang saw, and hunting dogs
This age 1 is for standard Brit. Hotkeying "bild manor" is important.
After collecting your crates build your first copulating house and a market ASAP BUT you need to build them in a particular way. They are the cornerstone of your defense and I recommend they're placed in front of your TC, but not too far, probably within TC firing range and contiguous (that units cannot path between them) and with foreknowledge of how the rest of your copulating houses will be built from this position. Protect a tree line if at all possible. More on this later. Put your vills on food and research gang saw. After gang saw is done and you've queued another vill, move your vills over to wood except for 5 for constant villager production. Use your hero to walk around. Get treasures but also get LOS for wall building, around your base.
Keep chopping as much wood as you can and making villagers. Your first card will be (1) Viriginia Company. You want to bild more copulating manors in rapid succession in a wall. Make sure this wall doesn't impede villager walking time (you cannot build a gate in a copulating house). So for instance if you have a bunch of vills chopping wood on the other side of the manor wall, and you will need to eventually move them on the inside part of the manor wall, maybe leave a gap and fill it in later but not too late. Think of a manor-wall as two layers of pallisade walls which break into smaller pieces.
OK even with all this nerfed-ass Virginia Company manor XP you'll soon have your next shipment, (2) 3 Villagers. Keep chopping wood and building manors in a wall. Try to get a small coin treasure for HD.
You want a continuous perimeter defense before the opponent has units in your base. Not all opponents will have units in your base at the same time. Most opponents will have units in your base before you can make 20 sexual houses, so you will need to start walling now and finish manor booming later. You will use pallisade walls to distance the gaps the manors cannot. For noob boobs tell yourself, "better safe than sorry." For high-GK oven-checkers (deep GUA reference), you will greed ovulating cottages as much as you can and build the walls at just the right time, for thrills that the drugs can't provide.
Your third card is (3) Town Militia (fka Colonial Militia and as habit oft writ as "CM" fyi). This is to kill things with your TC. You can't kill things unless they are in range of your TC. So when the opponent starts attacking a part of the perimeter defense, and it is outside TC range, you will need to build more walls closer to your TC. Like so.
This is what it might look like in a real geam.
CM TC fire is so effective you always want to do it if they are in range. And you have 42 vill and they have 12. Call small mm if needed. Exercise restraint in calling the large batch of MM. This is really not cost effective unless you get an insane trade, and will slow you down and eat your mines, but better than losing your only TC. Basically if I need to call big MM and they aren't all-in I've messed something up. Two years ago I made this thread: viewtopic.php?p=514474 . curious.
Learn to wall (and re-wall) like a pro sinner with [Roayl] JAILEDaoe's Advanced Walling Tips and Tricks (1) and (2): |
A lot of your apm will be spent on re-walling, retasking vills, not losing vills, repenting, and etc., but if you have extra apm, you can micro the TC onto the highest priority units and/or use your hero (and age up tower, when it comes), to finish off low HP units from TC, to avoid over killing with CM TC damage.
You don't age until you've built 20 horny homes, or at least 17-18 ish. Always age with 200c and tower. Get great coats if you didn't need it already and placer mines. Put most/all of your vills on food/coin to go straight III after hitting II. But you want to chop for steel traps and a church and more walls if you think they're needed.
Smell the flowers. No one has ever stayed age 1 as long as you have and won a game.
Tower placement matters. You can either tower in base for immediate defensive DPS, or tower to your next closest coin mine to ship your age 3 TC to, or you can shift click your tower around the map to act as a proxy shipment point to base trade later. I usually stick to close tower or 2nd mine tower. If I want a proxy tower I will use a vill later to build it.
Pioneers is obselete, however, if you get otto gren rushed and lose your TC in age 1, pioneers may be helpful (yes, this did happen to me and I won). GMT is an adaptation for specific maps and MUs. If your opponent makes 5 units the card is kind of wasted. If the opponent does nothing about GMT and you get 3+ TPs it makes the build 20%+ better, straight up. You ship GMT instead of CM and ship CM after.
This completes the age 1 portion of the standard British opening. The rest of the build order is trivial and left as an exercise to the reader.
Tips
Never 15-16v age up. You gain nothing to 15-16v age up. You are too fast and in a hurry. If you play vs fc (fast commerce) or ff (fast fortress) console yourself say, "age is just a number" and breathe.
Walls > outposts. I used to do this bild without walls, and with outposts. Then all of my vills were endlessly idled in a building 50x more expensive. Now they aren't and it's good (for me).
Always go III with a 2nd TC, for more CM firing and in case need to age IV from there.
6 Lbows + (enough) walls (+ CM) > any age 2 rush in the game
Incorporate natural obstacles into your walling to save resources (cliffs, TP sockets, mines)
Vs ff falc timings, you want SEVERAL layers of walls right in front of your TC, to buy your TC time to CM fire at the falcs, and prevent the infantry from mass seiging TC. Then call highlanders or CM to hold, or with 2 falc of your own. 2 falc + (enough) walls (+CM) > 2 falc 40 musk. See example: https://www.twitch.tv/callenapexlegends ... &sort=time
Forts take too long to build and require too large of a footprint (ideally your base has too many walls to build one) and I rarely if ever ship it, but it is good for prolonged surviving in age 3 to secure more res situationally.
If unpressured or lightly pressured try to queue age IV before shipping highlanders. You want to get age IV. You try to go immediately IV after reaching III.
Shib Gentlemen of Le Pike! Shib 20 lbow (into rangers)! Shib 3 rocket!
5) Match Ups :
This mu is very hard, in general fre want to 12/10 ff and go church card gren rush from outpost. It is simply too overpowered for brit to do anything about it. Consider shipping 7 shitty huss and time with CM. Avoid playing when Alvarow is in queue. Still, there's room to outplay.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
This mu is quite ez for Britain but not unlosable, you have to start 42 vill in age 1 and build some walls, then some more walls, then you need to TC fire their falcs down and call small mm or highlanders or something. if you can do that just go IV after and type gg ez.
Recommended Build : 42v age 1 FI
Traditionally this is an historical match up where the meta was 700w 600w bow pike. While those cards do exist in aoe3 DE I don't have them in my deck them and prefer to make 42 villagers in age1. dutch will probably out eco ngl but they then have to build a barracks and train their units 5 at a time instead of research 36 and ship 20, so you will out spike powerfully in early IV. consider a proxy outpost or two. banks cant move but vills can.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
This mu is a coin flip. whoever 3 rockets 3 rocket rockets and clicks guard ranger first wins.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
quite an ez MU since uhlans die to CM TCs, therefore recommend a total defensive perimeter and 42 vills. Just watch out for an early 2 uhlan from a nerdy 16v german player. beware of GUA imposters 7 falcing your ass too, then the 2nd TC and 3 rockets come in handy. Actually, sometimes vs GUA imposters you need to make a pit-stop in age 3 and train a culv. When this is happening just pretend youre playing port-style organ-gun/artillery only challenge and you'll be alright.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
deeply complex match up especially with the multitude of port build orders on the ladder. there are several ways you can play it, of course, but can't go too wrong with maxing manors in age 1 and FIing, shipping 2 falc to deal with 3 organs.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
Mu is hard just because of grens that smartly bonus even harder vs buildings. Some would suggest not building so many buildings then. I'd suggest building more.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
If you lose this MU I come into your life as a sleep paralysis demon and make you dream that you can't close a gap in your wall no matter how hard and 100 suvrov ruskets march in and raze your TC and all of your vill are dying but you're clicking them away but they're all dying and you're clicking and clicking, and they're dying and dying, every night, 100 res short of hitting IV and never getting that age up in queue.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
MU is close depending on if you're playing Frontline or not.
Recommended build : 42v age 1 FI
shitpost over.
If I were a petal
And plucked, or moth, plucked
From flowers or pollen froth
To wither on a young child’s
Display. Fetch
Me a ribbon, they, all dead
Things scream.
And plucked, or moth, plucked
From flowers or pollen froth
To wither on a young child’s
Display. Fetch
Me a ribbon, they, all dead
Things scream.
Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
There's a few matchups missing in which to recommend the variety of build orders you've laid out in this guide
Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
How do I approach Brit mirror if they also 42v age 1 FI?
Edit: actually, what if they 43v age 1 FI? Is the correct response to 41v for tempo or 44v for eco?
Edit: actually, what if they 43v age 1 FI? Is the correct response to 41v for tempo or 44v for eco?
Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
Just wait until people realize brit can revolt to haiti not just france and with the ease they do an FI they can safely spam the broken pirate units which after getting the card that gives them a ranged attack it bugs out cover mode so only their hand attack and siege half in damage and not the ranged attack. 300 HP units with 22 attack, 20 range, 60% RR and 50% Siege resist. They spawn for free from up to 7 tc's and the saloon or just spam them from saloon for 110g each, can make them 1 pop with theaters card as well.
Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
thanks Callen we really needed this, great to see the forums arent dead yet
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Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
May You (perhaps) add some comments about which deck to choose? I know there must be some important calculations on the variables involved...
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Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
This is so stupid that I might legit try it, especially in team games.
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Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
i'm wondering what build you would suggest vs sweden torp boom
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Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
What is better compared to age1 20torps or 20shrines or 42vills?
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Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
hard to protect all your shrines and torps inside wallsMiyawaki Sakura wrote: ↑22 Nov 2023, 14:25What is better compared to age1 20torps or 20shrines or 42vills?
If I were a petal
And plucked, or moth, plucked
From flowers or pollen froth
To wither on a young child’s
Display. Fetch
Me a ribbon, they, all dead
Things scream.
And plucked, or moth, plucked
From flowers or pollen froth
To wither on a young child’s
Display. Fetch
Me a ribbon, they, all dead
Things scream.
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Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
Updating guide with recs of my last five ladder matches (r2k )
master this strategy and you too can ruin peoples lives
master this strategy and you too can ruin peoples lives
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Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
5 banks doesnt get a mentionMiyawaki Sakura wrote: ↑22 Nov 2023, 14:25What is better compared to age1 20torps or 20shrines or 42vills?
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Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
Some (Many) say staying age 1 for 9 minutes is too strong
Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
British decks without 700 in age 2... an alternate reality for sure.
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Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
I love how this build is making a resurgence and is actually looking like the meta for now, so much fun while looking so stupid on paper.
Might stay off the 1v1 ladder for a while longer thanks Callen
Might stay off the 1v1 ladder for a while longer thanks Callen
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Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
Watching Callen play this is a joy ngl, we missed your brits shenanigans. Glad you are back playing them
Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
i love how some random guy in twitch chat didnt believe this build will work in "real" game vs "pro" players. we literally beat the "rank 1" gamer with this easily
Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
turns out kynesie is the key to beat that build
Re: British Guide (from a top 10, maybe top 3 player, once I get my GK down)
hi man, I'm new to aoe3 and from your guide I just don't understand what units to spam when you at age3? I have seen a game from LionHeart where he won thanks to black watches but I don't see you even mentioning them.
I played w Brits a game vs Italy and my opponent was just contiously sending against me his cavalry with 1600hp. my pikes (fully upgraded) couldn't do a thing to such fat units, what would you recomment? thx in advance
I played w Brits a game vs Italy and my opponent was just contiously sending against me his cavalry with 1600hp. my pikes (fully upgraded) couldn't do a thing to such fat units, what would you recomment? thx in advance
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