Mexico & Russia in team Games

[Little_Hussar]

Hi everyone,
I returned to AoE a few months ago, so I'm still learning most of the new stuff.
But today I saw something which I can't wrap my head around.

I was playing team qs, we matched France and Iro vs Mexico and Russia.
And essentially all was good until it wasn't. At the 5 minute mark, Mexico hits a revolt, and a unit which I had never seen, Filibuster, just started to melt through all our military buildings, 24siege with 1.5 rtf, basically 500hp every 3 seconds, needless to say that I got no units from that stable. And before I could even process what was happening, Russia had joined the frame with strelets.

At 6 mins they had 105 pop under my mate's tc, we only had 10 units, since our base died and we had to rebuild.
On top of that, I didn't even know how to counter it. Filis have 24 damage and 160 hp. At first cuz of the icon, i thought huss would to great, but they do
the same damage as a musk in melee, they are basically a stronger musk, that outperforms xb.

And last but not least, I thought that at some point he would run out of gas, cuz of no eco. But no, he just gets coin from every unit killed. Game just got dragged out till the point where they had 200 mil pop at around 10 mins, we had 30.

I saw this guy has basically a 100% winrate with this strat as Mexico. Lost 1 game only, against Mexico.

Any tips on how to counter it?

[dansil92]

mexico is the ass cancer of DE. Sorry you had to find out this way

[Frontline]

Yea, it’s a pretty annoying opening to deal with, but it’s also important to note that his settlers are what transform into the filibusters, so the immediate economic situation is quite poor for him. Mexico do have several options, including the coin per kill card you mentioned, to boom back into the game, so it’s not a complete all-in, but if you can hold the initial push, then you should have a clear advantage.

After you see that he’s revolted to Baja California, the best counter, if you haven’t already, is to immediately place production buildings behind your TC and start massing from home. You want to do as much chip damage as possible by kiting while continuously sending military shipments or resource crates to supplement your numbers. If he tries to fully commit to your base, then ideally you’d bait him to push close to your TC, and then time a unit shipment with MM, explorer buyback, and/or rax/stable unit pop in order to get a clear up, or at least a full army reset. If you’re playing France, then grabbing the CDB market upgrades and ungarrisoning them at the same moment helps as well.

[Black_Hole_Tree]

I have beat Baja rush in 1v1 as ottoman, laming church cards and Sipahi. Haven’t been able to withstand as Brit yet but I had to go on the Age III wiki to learn that filibuster is just musk with grenades. So I’ll spam longbow next time. I have done this rush as Mexico several times to go from 1000 back to 1100, it is particularly weak against Russia.

[fei123456]

Play Mexico too, choose another revolt option, and train cannons in age 2.