[RE] Yurashic (China) vs Aceholic (India)

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[RE] Yurashic (China) vs Aceholic (India)

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I have lost to a random captain who was playing India. He did 10/10 and went for sepoys and the tiger claw shipment.

I have literally no clue how to beat his strategy as China. If you play age 2 you have no unit that counters sepoys, if you try to age the Indian push will roll you over.
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India is a top civ after all :3 #nobashnocash
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India is a pretty rough civ to play against on hispaniola which is a reason to play esoc patch i guess. That being said i think there were quite a few things that could have helped you hold this easier. 1) Hide a few vills on some berries in some corner of the map to get the consulate up and to make sure you are not totally idled. 2)Instead of fighting with your hero, mm, free banner army and 8bows separately, time them all at the same time. 3)Abuse cover mode for your hero more 4) If you have 10 vills in the tc make sure that you manually target 2 shots onto each sepoy so that they are on 10hp and are then easily killed by your counter timing.
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Vs india 10/10 you can ship 8 chukonu first and then 700g
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Yeah on high crate maps india is just imba.
On a normal map you can just hold tho.
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yurashic wrote:I have lost to a random captain who was playing India. He did 10/10 and went for sepoys and the tiger claw shipment.

I have literally no clue how to beat his strategy as China. If you play age 2 you have no unit that counters sepoys, if you try to age the Indian push will roll you over.


hes not a random capt but a former brig
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I really hate when you find Azzy and India on hispa lol, they attack ~4 min wtf


It's nearly impossible to counter Aztec on Hispa imo.
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why is that? you also get extra crates for a faster age up and extra units
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ye the extra crates should actually help the defender more than the offender
ah also please play on the EP =/
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no games on EP
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Garja wrote:ye the extra crates should actually help the defender more than the offender
ah also please play on the EP =/

But it doesn t. It actually allows india to 10/10 without stopping the vill prod.
That way, on deccan/hispa, they age 30sec sooner than a nilla civ while on a normal map, if they don t want to cut their vill prod they age 30-40 sec after a nilla civ.
So their bo is 1 whole min faster :(
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india is a bit of an exception tbh, because they start with 3-4 woodcrates and thus can get a shitton of wood on maps like that. and wood being a very valuable res early on, they are jumpstarted even more.

in general though, i think garja is right in what he says, the more agressive civs are helped less than the ones that are usually a bit slower or more defensive. as in, jap brits will benefit more on such a map than aztec otto or iro. their age up time wont be that much faster, unless u would go for a 5v all in like russia, but thats cheese really, not that viable. ofcourse this is quite straightforward and general answer and every mu can be a bit different.
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Asain civs benefit the most from high crate maps becuase they can age earlier without sacrificing any eeco
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lol you guys say india 10/10 is weak tiger claw is of no use blablabla
anyway on this map you should have defend his rush.
that is, you should chop as soon as you start to build your wonder, and wall in front of his agra. wall two layers. it cost only 50 wood but can have 6000hp (on re patch). if his sepoy come from the right side it will be a long journey.
on esoc fp the wall only have 1500hp, and you can try 8xbow 9pike ff. collect all the 2200 resources with your vills, but with 9pike 8xbow and minutemen his rush won't work. or even semiff and train some units. china ff is usually right, but not always. if india 10/10 (especially on these extra crate maps), china semiff may be better. you actually has better eco than him, and chukonu kills sepoy easily. a 10/10 india can't train sepoy and sowar constantly.
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umeu wrote:no games on EP

no games on the RE parch either
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umeu wrote:no games on EP

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