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19 Apr 2017, 17:31

Ever wonder what every single KnB map looked like but felt too lazy to open all for them up because there were too many and you didn't like the balance?

Well I would like to announce I have attempted to fix both of those problems. Here are screenshots of all maps so that you can see what they are without loading them all on one page.

It's been like this for a while, but the KnB maps on the EP have had most of their resources redone with a template I designed about a year ago called "quickBalance" which is a blanket template to quickly get decent balance on almost any map. It works best on land maps but should still be decent on most water maps, barring extreme water maps such as Greek Archipelago. I would like to advertise this because I don't know if it is public knowledge or not. This template can be used by anyone by taking it from one of those maps and moving it to a map where it is needed.

I would love feedback on these maps to better improve them and possibly have a few of them become permanent seats on the ESOC map set. If you guys see any that look interesting in these screenshots or have balance concerns, feel free to message me or leave a message here and tag me so that I see it.

I would also like to take a sentence here to plug my custom map workshop which is probably where the changes will be made before they are EP ready. Feel free to put in any request of any sort, I try to get to them all eventually.

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4748

What maps do you guys want screenshots of next? RE patch? NE mod? Suggest a mod? Any suggestions on minimalist UI's or a button to turn off all UI parts so the screenshots look nicer?

Alps

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Andalusia

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Ardennes

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Bosphorus

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Crete

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Cyprus

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Dalmatia

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Danish Straits

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Finland

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Greek Archipelago

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Hedjaz

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Ireland

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Lake Geneva

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Lombardy

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Low Countries

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Massif Central

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Morea

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Norway

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Portugal

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Pyrenees

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Rhodopes

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Sahara

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Savannah

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Sicily

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Sweden

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Tuscany

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19 Apr 2017, 18:05

Nice work, the quickBalance template seems like a really useful tool to make maps like these playable.

I'll just note that Durokan's fixes were applied in the 3.1.0.0 patch, so we are looking for feedback on balance after that update. If you've tried them out before, you haven't seen the rebalanced versions yet!

Durokan wrote:Any suggestions on minimalist UI's or a button to turn off all UI parts so the screenshots look nicer?

Neuron's Minimalistic UI should be exactly what you're looking for: viewtopic.php?f=33&t=750
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19 Apr 2017, 18:26

what is KnB
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19 Apr 2017, 19:30

we should play tourneys on those is there a KnB UI ????? :love:
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19 Apr 2017, 20:15

Firstly, UI versions have to be made.

What is with those trading routes in the water? Are they of any use?
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19 Apr 2017, 20:17

this ^durokan guy is the real hero.
how long does it take to programm a map? i got some knowledge in C/C++
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19 Apr 2017, 20:56

Wow. :ohmy:
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19 Apr 2017, 21:05

pecelot wrote:Firstly, UI versions have to be made.

What is with those trading routes in the water? Are they of any use?


The Knights and Barbarians mod had water trade routes and they are there as an artifact of that but are not functional as of now
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19 Apr 2017, 21:10

AOEisLOVE_AOEisLIFE wrote:this ^durokan guy is the real hero.
how long does it take to programm a map? i got some knowledge in C/C++

Varies greatly bases on the map. There is a recording of me doing Mt. Fuji somewhere and it took me about an hour, and I got stuck for a bit on the central mountain. Given, I had a template and was given a detailed specification. I used the template I typically use for resources and did not alter them past that. I have found a good medium between balance and releasing them with hours of work at a minimum, so something like a high tier tournament EP map that maximizes balance might not care about the time constraint as much as takes substantially longer to balance and polish.

It's pretty easy, especially given the resources both me and riki have provided
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19 Apr 2017, 22:59

Durokan wrote:
AOEisLOVE_AOEisLIFE wrote:this ^durokan guy is the real hero.
how long does it take to programm a map? i got some knowledge in C/C++


It's pretty easy, especially given the resources both me and riki have provided

= there are videos on youtube, right? i could look into it, especially now that university is kinda chill.
thanks for the information!
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19 Apr 2017, 23:00

AOEisLOVE_AOEisLIFE wrote:
Durokan wrote:
AOEisLOVE_AOEisLIFE wrote:this ^durokan guy is the real hero.
how long does it take to programm a map? i got some knowledge in C/C++


It's pretty easy, especially given the resources both me and riki have provided

= there are videos on youtube, right? i could look into it, especially now that university is kinda chill.
thanks for information!

I'll post everything I can find if you give me an hour
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19 Apr 2017, 23:04

Durokan wrote:I'll post everything I can find if you give me an hour

cheers man!
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19 Apr 2017, 23:08

Knb maps have like 2 hunts per map
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19 Apr 2017, 23:10

gibson wrote:Knb maps have like 2 hunts per map

Have you tried them after the rebalance made on EP 3.1?
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19 Apr 2017, 23:51

AOEisLOVE_AOEisLIFE wrote:
Durokan wrote:I'll post everything I can find if you give me an hour

cheers man!

Map Scripting Resources

Riki Guide
viewtopic.php?f=33&t=9454

Durokan goes over his template
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etnopa0PNUM

Durokan's Making of Mt. Fuji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp1nBqJ ... 69&index=1

Hyena Studios guide
http://web.archive.org/web/201004211125 ... torial.htm

Map coordinate picture
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Some other documentation but in browser
http://ageofempires3.ru/forum/2-54-1

Durokan's Template and RMS Map guider attached.
Terrain pallette (I don't know who to credit, it was on our trello boards.)
All functions with documentation (same as above)
Attachments
durokans_template_5-28-17.xml
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ALL_RMS_commands.txt
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Tutorial RMS.xml
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Durokans Template.xml
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20 Apr 2017, 11:20

Durokan wrote:
AOEisLOVE_AOEisLIFE wrote:
Durokan wrote:I'll post everything I can find if you give me an hour

cheers man!

Map Scripting Resources

Riki Guide
viewtopic.php?f=33&t=9454

Durokan goes over his template
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etnopa0PNUM

Durokan's Making of Mt. Fuji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp1nBqJ ... 69&index=1

Hyena Studios guide
http://web.archive.org/web/201004211125 ... torial.htm

Map coordinate picture
Image

Some other documentation but in browser
http://ageofempires3.ru/forum/2-54-1

Durokan's Template and RMS Map guider attached.
Terrain pallette (I don't know who to credit, it was on our trello boards.)
All functions with documentation (same as above)


wow, this is awesome.
thank you man!

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