Germany lordraphael
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10 Apr 2018, 18:43

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[EP4-2 SP] Mitoe[CH] vs LordRaphael[DU] - ESOC Florida.age3yrec
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[EP4-2 SP] Mitoe[AZ] vs LordRaphael[AZ] - ESOC Indonesia.age3yrec
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[EP4-2 SP] Mitoe[JP] vs LordRaphael[RU] - ESOC Bengal.age3yrec
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Version: ESOC Patch 4.2
Length: 10 minutes
No Flag tedere12
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10 Apr 2018, 18:45

post screenshots or DQ
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France P i k i l i c
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10 Apr 2018, 18:56

Congratulations to LordRaphael, btw would be cool to see badges for big tournaments as well
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:hmm: AoE logic :hmm:
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Malawi princeofcarthage
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10 Apr 2018, 19:06

P i k i l i c wrote:Congratulations to LordRaphael, btw would be cool to see badges for big tournaments as well

@Mitoe
Fine line to something great is a strange change.
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Canada Mitoe
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10 Apr 2018, 19:07

For some reason I always pick into bad/weird matchups when I play vs Raphael :hmm:
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10 Apr 2018, 19:13

Mitoe wrote:For some reason I always pick into bad/weird matchups when I play vs Raphael :hmm:

are you ready to get rekt in bo5 chess now?
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10 Apr 2018, 19:15

Mitoe wrote:For some reason I always pick into bad/weird matchups when I play vs Raphael :hmm:


bad excuse.
Saying something like "Yeah can happen when you pick a shit match up on a map that disadvantages you and play suboptimal. Good thing that this tourney is useless so it doesn't really matter." would had been better, but ok.
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Canada Mitoe
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10 Apr 2018, 19:24

princeofcarthage wrote:
Mitoe wrote:For some reason I always pick into bad/weird matchups when I play vs Raphael :hmm:

are you ready to get rekt in bo5 chess now?

EZ

gh0st wrote:bad excuse.
Saying something like "Yeah can happen when you pick a shit match up on a map that disadvantages you and play suboptimal. Good thing that this tourney is useless so it doesn't really matter." would had been better, but ok.

Wasn't trying to make an excuse (though it certainly sounds like one), just reflecting on it.

I feel as if I could win a series vs any player, but for some reason whenever I play vs Raphael I experience this weird mental block where I just have no clue what I should do at any point during or in-between games. I think in the last 20 games we've played I've won maybe 4 games or something--I don't think there's any other player that takes that many games off of me so easily. I'd rather play vs BlackStar or H2O than I would vs Raphael :P

I overthink the games or something. Or maybe he's just reading my mind? :hmm:
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India gh0st
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10 Apr 2018, 19:42

Mitoe wrote:
gh0st wrote:bad excuse.
Saying something like "Yeah can happen when you pick a shit match up on a map that disadvantages you and play suboptimal. Good thing that this tourney is useless so it doesn't really matter." would had been better, but ok.

Wasn't trying to make an excuse (though it certainly sounds like one), just reflecting on it.

I feel as if I could win a series vs any player, but for some reason whenever I play vs Raphael I experience this weird mental block where I just have no clue what I should do at any point during or in-between games. I think in the last 20 games we've played I've won maybe 4 games or something--I don't think there's any other player that takes that many games off of me so easily. I'd rather play vs BlackStar or H2O than I would vs Raphael :P

I overthink the games or something. Or maybe he's just reading my mind? :hmm:


yea ik. Was just kidding tho,joke reference
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10 Apr 2018, 19:46

Yeah, no I got the reference XD
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10 Apr 2018, 21:19

Mitoe wrote:For some reason I always pick into bad/weird matchups when I play vs Raphael :hmm:

or you buy wrong resources :food: :wood:
or you throw won games
anyhow, happy birthday :flowers:
Ars longa, vita brevis :unsure:
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Italy Garja
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10 Apr 2018, 21:41

Mitoe wrote:I overthink the games or something. Or maybe he's just reading my mind? :hmm:

You just picked China vs Dutch and did weird stuff, Aztec mirror you failed at micro and last game you suicided with Japan vs Russia and without a counterstrat.
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Tuvalu gibson
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10 Apr 2018, 21:56

yea the first game and last game was just bad builds, middle game bad micro
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10 Apr 2018, 22:06

gibson wrote:yea the first game and last game was just bad builds, middle game bad micro

thats basically the story of every game tho. Its always a combination of micro, macro, builds, decision,making that lead to the defeat.
breeze wrote:they cant even guess how much f***ing piece of stupid retarded they look they are trying to give lesson to people who are over pr35 and know the best mu. im pretty sure that we need a page that only pr30+ post and then we could have a nice discussins.
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Italy Garja
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10 Apr 2018, 22:13

Ye tho a bit disappointing since Mitoe could have just mirrored first game too and then picked India or Russia on Bengal.
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Argentina AraGun
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10 Apr 2018, 22:28

can clearly see the pr difference in these games xD
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Tuvalu gibson
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10 Apr 2018, 22:51

lordraphael wrote:
gibson wrote:yea the first game and last game was just bad builds, middle game bad micro

thats basically the story of every game tho. Its always a combination of micro, macro, builds, decision,making that lead to the defeat.

I mean thats true but in the first and last game he just straight up lost cause of doing a bad build, which is a bit rare at this level.
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New Zealand zoom
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10 Apr 2018, 23:02

Congrat's! I can't believe someone lost to Rafu's Aztecs, though. I guess it took shipping 5 Coyotes to pull it off.
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Canada Mitoe
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10 Apr 2018, 23:28

Garja wrote:
Mitoe wrote:I overthink the games or something. Or maybe he's just reading my mind? :hmm:

You just picked China vs Dutch and did weird stuff, Aztec mirror you failed at micro and last game you suicided with Japan vs Russia and without a counterstrat.

Yeah, I didn't have a good plan, and Raphael just played solid overall; doesn't change the fact that I've lost almost all of my recent games to him. I guess I tried too hard to do stuff he wouldn't expect to compensate for that, and it cost me big since I hadn't actually prepared any of it. In reality I should've been more confident in my ability to win a more standard game in a tournament setting. Lesson learned for next time!
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10 Apr 2018, 23:44

botmitoe
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Argentina AraGun
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11 Apr 2018, 00:59

Yea mitoe, exactly the fact you didn't have time to prepare and tried to pull of something unexpected to win is what makes this style of tournament fun. Good players improvise on the fly and adapt. Cant always practice same MU 20 times on same map before a tournament that is kind of mechanical and boring.
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Canada Mitoe
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11 Apr 2018, 03:00

Disregarding the fact that it was obvious that Raphael would make it to the finals and that the finals were postponed by 2 days, I still could've thought of good picks for each map :P

Preparation is still important. Dicktator practiced for this tournament and look what it did for him: he played really well all tournament, it was possible he could've even beaten me.
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11 Apr 2018, 09:03

the champ is dead! long live the champ!
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Italy DaRkNiTe1698
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11 Apr 2018, 12:01

Mitoe wrote:For some reason I always pick into bad/weird matchups when I play vs Raphael :hmm:
So, are there still bad match ups in a balanced patch, as EP ?
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11 Apr 2018, 12:28

Mitoe wrote:For some reason I always pick into bad/weird matchups when I play vs Raphael :hmm:


what of those matchups do you consider weird/bad? Dutch China is pretty balanced in my opinion. Only I can think as odd is Jp - Rus
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