edeholland wrote:Who is going to decide which case is obvious and which isn't obvious? If I am going to leave everything I think is obvious, it will be different from what all other (Comm Team) members think. No single person should be the judge, which is why I redact every post and don't make the judgement myself.
"Obvious" means that you don't have to decide anything. It's just obvious. It's a fact, there's nothing to judge.
Maybe you redact every post, but a lot of accusations on esoc haven't been redacted, so it's stupid.
edeholland wrote:The negativity and witch hunts thing is indeed a common argument and something that some (staff) members share. I personally think that won't be an issue as long as the accusations are properly dealt with (anonymous evidence, posted in a private board and judged by a team). I encourage you to create a thread to propose a team to the community and ask them if they trust this team with handling a ban list. Even if the staff/community decides they don't want a public ban list (which I think is unlikely, but I haven't polled it recently), you can always create a server with that team and post a ban list in an online Google Doc.
Why would I make yet another thread? The question of cheating accusations was raised multiple times already, by myself and by others, and ESOC never changed its mind about it. I doubt one more thread is gonna change anything, sounds like another waste of time. Tbh I am most likely already wasting my time right now by typing this.
And making a list that isn't on ESOC is useless because it will have no legitimacy. Why would people trust a random list?
edeholland wrote:Saying we are protecting cheaters is telling half the truth. We are also protecting fair players from being falsely accused as well as protecting the positivity and environment in the community.
By removing 100% obvious proofs, you are protecting cheaters, and no one else. And if anything it brings more negativity, as this thread (and a ton of others) can attest.