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11 Oct 2019, 02:10

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lejend wrote:There's a reason Trump's people are all rooting for her in the primary.

N-no, what are you talking about? Tax hikes, the green new deal, and free healthcare for illegal immigrants is a great way to win over moderates.

*twirls mustache deviously*


Do you consider yourself a Trump supporter?

yeah

n0el wrote:Who gives a shit about moderates. This is going to be a base election.

Brilliant strategy! I encourage you to keep at it. :hehe:
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11 Oct 2019, 02:41

i hope so, if they go the moderate way they will lose.
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11 Oct 2019, 11:22

@Amsel_ Why do you hate the Kurds
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11 Oct 2019, 12:28

fightinfrenchman wrote:@Amsel_ Why do you hate the Kurds

I don't hate the Kurds. I simply recognize the fact that the capital of Syria is Damascus. The SDF was just an American proxy from day one, meant to occupy territory in order to prevent Assad from reuniting the country. (and provide a stable launching point for a new Syrian state once all the terrorists we armed got killed off) I would have preferred a diplomatic reintegration to continued unnecessary violence, but the recent Turkish invasion isn't a pivotal moment. They're only planning on occupying the border region - something they've already done in northwestern Syria.
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11 Oct 2019, 13:57

@Amsel_ Let me rephrase that, why do you consider it good when Kurds are killed
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11 Oct 2019, 14:21

The whole Middle East is a cesspool of mutual hate. All Arabs hate Israelis. Turks hate Kurds. Iran and Syria are Shi'a allies, since they belong to the same branch of Muslim faith. And Israelis are their arch-enemy that they are trying to wipe out from Palestine. Israelis on the other hand are trying to turn Palestianians into 2nd rate citizens and drive them out of their lands. Saudis, on the other hand, hate Iranians and want them destroyed. So pretty much every relation between Middle East states is shaped by this complicated polygon of hate.
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11 Oct 2019, 14:52

yeah, it is surely a MESS
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11 Oct 2019, 22:18

It's official. Trump's getting reelected

Deplorables v2.0

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11 Oct 2019, 22:19

@lejend Would you like to wager anything on that?
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11 Oct 2019, 22:22

I don't think it's right to profit off other people's misery.
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12 Oct 2019, 00:09

I'm kind of going back and forth on this but right now feel like this is pretty cool

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12 Oct 2019, 00:25

she's right though
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12 Oct 2019, 01:56

fightinfrenchman wrote:I'm kind of going back and forth on this but right now feel like this is pretty cool


Ironic coming from Ms. I was fired for being pregnant.
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12 Oct 2019, 02:20

lejend wrote:It's official. Trump's getting reelected

Deplorables v2.0



I really cannot see that happening, in any worst scenario, But let me ask you; would you like that? I do not think so, but my question is out there for you to answer bro :P
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12 Oct 2019, 06:13

Amsel_ wrote:
I love when Kurds die


Yes, I know
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12 Oct 2019, 06:41

fightinfrenchman wrote:I'm a racist who thinks other nations are unable to solve their conflicts peacefully, so they need a superior country, a master race to babysit them 24/7.
I knew you were an extremist, but damn, it's hard for you to hide it.
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12 Oct 2019, 06:43

You can't steal my bit
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12 Oct 2019, 06:44

fightinfrenchman wrote:You can't steal my bait
I'm a gypsy, so wherever I go, I must steal. Ooops, I've accidentally been racist with myself.

PS. :hmm: Hm, but I'm saying something negative about myself so that can't make me a supremacist. More like an inferiorist.
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12 Oct 2019, 13:12

Any last-minute predictions for Louisiana's election today?
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12 Oct 2019, 23:34

Amsel_ wrote:Any last-minute predictions for Louisiana's election today?

you give us the results, and the significance of it, when it is over, I hope, and I am sure of it :love:
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13 Oct 2019, 01:19

iwillspankyou wrote:I really cannot see that happening, in any worst scenario, But let me ask you; would you like that? I do not think so, but my question is out there for you to answer bro :P


Well, sis, until a couple days ago I was wholeheartedly rooting for a Trump loss, but after that "Equality Town Hall" the other night, I'm definitely having second thoughts. Neither party even pretends to stand for the whole nation anymore; respecting and persuading your opponents is out of style, replaced by the mandate to rile up your supporters and destroy those who disagree with you, including through the use of state violence. It's really disgusting.

Between Trump's racism and xenophobia and the Democrats' socialism and war on Christianity, it's hard to say which side is worse. It's becoming increasingly clear that there won't even be a lesser evil to support in 2020; both sides are great evils.

This article sums up my views on the matter:

From 2 different stages, a frightening display of our political future

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... cal-future

From a stage in Minneapolis, President Trump unleashed a profane rant against his political rival after his son, during the opening act, spurred on the crowd to chant, "Lock him up." Meanwhile, on a stage in Los Angeles, those seeking to replace Trump denigrated people of faith and threatened to punish nonprofit organizations on the basis of their beliefs.

Many of us seeking a sane politics have gotten whiplash over the past several years, as Democrats have responded to Trump's extremism with a radicalism of their own. In the new form of politics, the other side cannot merely be disagreed with in a civil way. They need to be berated and treated as the enemy.

Outrageous behavior by one side is not seen as an opportunity to make the other side set a better tone but a justification to embrace ugly tactics in pursuit of their own side's causes.

The other side is always the merciless one, willing to lie and cheat and destroy innocent people to win. To embrace civility in the face of the other side's evil is only to unilaterally disarm and lose gracefully. So elections devolve into contests of who is more willing to be nasty, to marginalize the other side, and to toss aside norms to achieve their desired ends.


In Minnesota, Eric Trump, warming up the crowd, said of Joe Biden, "Maybe lock her up goes to lock him up. Lock him up." The crowd dutifully responded, "Lock him up."

Trump himself went on his own foul-mouthed rant against Biden, declaring, "He was only a good vice president because he understood how to kiss Barack Obama’s ass."

As sanctimonious as liberals wanted to get about Trump's rally, the authoritarianism and contempt for religion being displayed by Democrats in CNN's "equality" town hall was something to behold.

Beto O'Rourke, fresh off his campaign to confiscate guns, declared that churches, colleges, and charities that did not support gay marriage should lose their nonprofit status. The move is patently unconstitutional. While the government could get rid of the tax-exempt status of all nonprofit organizations, it can not pick and choose who gets a tax benefit on the basis of political beliefs. But that didn't stop the audience from hooting and cheering O'Rourke's response.

It would be easy to dismiss O'Rourke's statement as a one-off coming from a desperately flailing candidate. But that would overlook the despicable display from front-runner Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

During the event, Warren was asked how she would respond to a supporter who told her, "My faith teaches me that marriage is between one man and one woman."

Warren said, "Well, I'm going to assume it's a guy that said that. And I'm going to say, 'Then just marry one woman' — I'm cool with that." After taking a beat, she added, "Assuming you can find one," rolling her eyes in disdain for dramatic effect.


There is, of course, a perfectly respectful way to make the case that the existence of gay marriage does not prohibit anybody from having a heterosexual marriage. Indeed, that's an argument I've been making myself for well over a decade.

But in the new politics, it isn't enough to make an argument: A politician has to show disgust for anybody with different beliefs, as well as employ caricatures of the other side.

First is the assumption that the theoretical anti-gay marriage supporter would be male. A recent Pew poll found only a narrow difference between the genders on gay marriage. Though 33% of men said they opposed same-sex marriage, 29% of women, or nearly as many, said the same. Second, there's the assumption that no man who opposes gay marriage can be able to find a partner.

It isn't enough that gay marriage is legal in all 50 states, the third of the population that still believes it should be illegal should be mocked and vilified by somebody seeking the nation's highest office, and if in the process she can throw in an attack on men, even better.


Predictably, on social media, partisans cheered on Trump's zingers, and liberals thought Warren totally crushed the answer.

The Trump phenomenon increasingly looks less like an aberration and more a sign of where politics are moving.
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13 Oct 2019, 01:23

@lejend That's an absurd comparison. You really think Elizabeth Warren would enact socialism in the US with a Senate controlled by Republicans or just barely by Democrats with people like Joe Manchin making up that majority?
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13 Oct 2019, 02:06

There's no guarantee that Republicans will control the Senate after the 2020 elections; at best, they'll have a bare majority. And the 2022 Senate map favors the Democrats, so they have a good chance of taking back the Senate before the end of the next presidential term. It's not set in stone but it's not out there either.
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13 Oct 2019, 03:54

lejend wrote:There's no guarantee that Republicans will control the Senate after the 2020 elections; at best, they'll have a bare majority. And the 2022 Senate map favors the Democrats, so they have a good chance of taking back the Senate before the end of the next presidential term. It's not set in stone but it's not out there either.


What percentage of current Democratic senators do you think are "socialist?"
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