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China Crazy_Alexander
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30 Aug 2020, 17:04

I heard that the AOE3 DE is trying to change the model of american civ: They can't get coin by mining anymore but have it from "fur trading". Does it means a great change to american?
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United States of America giveuanxiety
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30 Aug 2020, 17:07

Unfortunately it seems like something they were forced to do. It's pretty clear that its going to make those civs less fun to play. Hopefully it is just slightly bad and not completely broken.
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30 Aug 2020, 17:10

Sounds like a potentially interesting new mechanic, and it fits the civs and history better than the current situation. Of course we have to wait to see the implementation.

Don't listen to a bunch of guys who've been playing this game way too long tell you about how it's impossible to improve on a 15 year old game.
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Brazil CaperBR
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30 Aug 2020, 17:21

From what has been said so far, doesn't look like it will be that big of a change as some make it seem. All we can do is wait for more info
OSES 2 when?
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Argentina Jets
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30 Aug 2020, 17:42

I suspect there would be a new type of villagers, something like those from the Wol tupis, a fur gatherer that works among the villagers when hunting animals, thus making you choose between a higher amount of food or gold to gather from your herds.
Or perhaps they can gather fur from the dead animals idk.
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30 Aug 2020, 18:09

giveuanxiety wrote:Unfortunately it seems like something they were forced to do. It's pretty clear that its going to make those civs less fun to play. Hopefully it is just slightly bad and not completely broken.


where did you hear that they were forced to do this from?
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30 Aug 2020, 18:24

giveuanxiety wrote:Unfortunately it seems like something they were forced to do. It's pretty clear that its going to make those civs less fun to play. Hopefully it is just slightly bad and not completely broken.


Forced by who, and also how is this mechanic you know nothing about "pretty clear" to be worse
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30 Aug 2020, 18:31

unfortunately my pp got reduction surgery, to more accurately represent my aztec ancestors. I hope we can still have just as much fun tho
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30 Aug 2020, 18:46

lol
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30 Aug 2020, 18:47

giveuanxiety wrote:Unfortunately it seems like something they were forced to do. It's pretty clear that its going to make those civs less fun to play. Hopefully it is just slightly bad and not completely broken.

Nothing about the feature is "pretty clear"

I don't see how adding a new mechanic that adds more variety between civs guarantees that it makes the civ less fun
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30 Aug 2020, 18:47

it's jus such a weird stretch to talk about a design change as if it had weird BLM motives? how do the two even correlate? I cant even. your conspiracies are too wild
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30 Aug 2020, 18:47

amiggo1999 wrote:unfortunately my pp got reduction surgery, to more accurately represent my aztec ancestors. I hope we can still have just as much fun tho

xD
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30 Aug 2020, 18:52

musketeer925 wrote:
I don't see how adding a new mechanic that adds more variety between civs guarantees that it makes the civ less fun


Start @ :27

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30 Aug 2020, 18:57

iNcog wrote:it's jus such a weird stretch to talk about a design change as if it had weird BLM motives? how do the two even correlate? I cant even. your conspiracies are too wild
Yea it makes no sense, like its obviously a historical change because historically thats the way it was lol. As if the Aztecs gathering gold is some sort of SJW issue anyway. Whether or not its gonna be good,bad, or just irrelevant is yet to be seen though
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30 Aug 2020, 19:09

iNcog wrote:it's jus such a weird stretch to talk about a design change as if it had weird BLM motives? how do the two even correlate? I cant even. your conspiracies are too wild
I agree with the inkman here, I also don't see any correlation between PC, BLM or any other movement or idea.
They just wanted to be more accurate and redo certain things.

They said Iroquois and Sioux won't be gold mining right? So Aztec will? Why? Because of the Aztec Mining card? :ugly:
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30 Aug 2020, 19:17

Clearly the change is being done because George Floyd was killed earlier this year. If he was never killed this change would not be done. If the change wasnt due to that event then the devs would have equally changed all historical inaccuracies, instead of only adjusting 2 civs.

It's hard to image a change that was solely for political/historical reasons would not effect balance. Balance was not behind the idea for this change at all. So who ever is balancing it will have a tricky task of trying their hardest to balance it as much as they can.
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30 Aug 2020, 19:18

giveuanxiety wrote:Clearly the change is being done because George Floyd was killed earlier this year. If he was never killed this change would not be done. If the change wasnt due to that event then the devs would have equally changed all historical inaccuracies, instead of only adjusting 2 civs.


I straight up can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. The first two sentences seem to imply you are but the last one seems genuine? Explain using examples from the text
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30 Aug 2020, 19:20

The change would not be done if George Floyd never died. His death raised a change in society. That's why their also working on renaming american football teams like the redskins. (I never said this was a bad thing to make these changes. Im just stating what lead to these changes being made)
Lasol wrote: :hmm: just Saw a YouTube video with giveyouanexiaty. He Said check youre stove, if you Want to improve youre aoe3 skills.

WHAT does check your stove means? And how do you do it?

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30 Aug 2020, 19:21

George Floyd was killed like 3 months ago, this game has been in development for 3+ years
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30 Aug 2020, 19:23

These changes have not been in development for 3+ years.
Lasol wrote: :hmm: just Saw a YouTube video with giveyouanexiaty. He Said check youre stove, if you Want to improve youre aoe3 skills.

WHAT does check your stove means? And how do you do it?

Follow my stream @ twitch.tv/giveuanxiety
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30 Aug 2020, 19:24

I'm very doubtful that the developers started to freak out 3 months ago that people would get really offended if they re-released a game where Indians mine gold
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30 Aug 2020, 19:26

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Canada Warno
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30 Aug 2020, 19:27

Can someone explain the fur trade mechanic?

Do the Civs now hunt, and then trade food(fur) for higher amount of gold? Or is there some sort of fur bank, like a mine where villagers gather fur?
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30 Aug 2020, 19:33

Warno wrote:Can someone explain the fur trade mechanic?

Do the Civs now hunt, and then trade food(fur) for higher amount of gold? Or is there some sort of fur bank, like a mine where villagers gather fur?


No, we can't, because the developers haven't explained yet. Unless @EAGLEMUT wants to spill the beans
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Tuvalu gibson
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30 Aug 2020, 19:35

The native american expert was hired far before 3 months ago, so its safe to say that it was not as a result of george floyds death.

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