I only know to Std Spain ff (forward tower/def ) ,piro ff (with halbs one also) ,Spain FI (with variations) ,ATP Spain FF.
I kinda wanted to do this as homework but realised it will take insane amount of time ,needing to play vs 15 other civs 2-3 times to get atleast some clear idea.Also think this will serve as a good input to new players & ppl wanting to get.
I know Spain as become popular and a lot of ppl are playing it & also sure not everyone would have faced other 15 civs yet so in combination of input from everyone i think this would be a very great information !
So please help me in completing & guiding me in this & thank you
Vs Incas:
Spain counters Inca so this one should be easy because rods,pikes counter chimmus and skrims /lancers doing dps to his inf mass ,to clean his buildings get artillery & u win.
->Xbow/pikes Semi FI .
->If you play in age 3 send SG first then have a good mass of skrims/rods +lancers & push with 2 falcs.
G's thoughts:
Aggro FF or FI. Aggro FF is to use the tech advantage and don't give them time to age or start outplaying with raids, etc. FI is because you get so much stuff for free that you don't risk to get outplayed and also you threat to get a decisive tech advantage they can't match. Also Inca has hard time punishing it as you just turn the FI into FF if they go aggro. Most of times you can hold even with the semi FI and a a bit of walling.
Vs Spain:
In Spain mirror it's more about timing...be sure to macro perfectly and hit age 3 asap ,rushing doesn't work hence ff is better & it all comes down to who does better in age 3.
->Std Spain tower ff either aggro or defensive depending on situation can send Spanish Gold if you see his/made him do tower at base else send military shipments like 5 4 lancers/2 falcs.You will be making skrims from rax get dogs from explorer and a mix of skrims lancers rods & with micro decides the game.
->Fi might be viable if opponent isn't going full aggro FF.
Vs Brits:
One of the hardest mu for spain ,the brits eco always make their civ to have a lot of units so i think it's hard even if you somehow reached even age 3.Never do age 2 vs brits thats sucide.
->Xbow/pikes Semi FI ,I think this can work great because vs musks u get xbows to scare them off and ofc you need some walls so as to pro xbows falcs & some pikes to def it ,if you get to age 4 i think you can good chance ,eg from Soldier vs Garja game.
G's Thoughts:
Brits don't seem too hard for Spain on DE (and they weren't impossible on EP imo). I think you can even do colonial builds and be just fine. You don't have ups for your musks but you have better shipment rate so you easily get 7+6 rods after 700w 5v 700g 600w, while 2 raxing and eventually you can add unction missionaries. Musk semi FF is ok (especially now with 9 xbow age up it's basically impossible for Brits to break the fb if you send 7 rods in transition). FF for musk+lancers is probably fine. Eco FF with all possible variations is ok. ATP semi FF is ok. FI, semi FI, semi semi FI is also ok. Honestly can do w/e vs Brits and you should never be in a terrible spot.
Vs Azzy:
->FF should be safe for the most part. Can always do 15v --> 18v FF so it's hard to punish. Then you have a lot of stuff in age3. If Aztecs are more passive you might be able to go industrial.
Vs Russia:
This should be an easiest mu for spain ,another hard counter for russia so std ff into skrims +rods/lancers can also do SG.
->Std spain FF.
->Piro ff.
G's thoughts:
It depends on what Russia is doing. Standard rush is super easy to counter with either basic FF or even musk start + huss + unit shipment timing. Russia should either go mass ruskets with stagecoach or some sort of FF themselves, in which case Spain doesn't have a clear win but probably still has the upper hand until it gets to late game.
Vs China:
I think is a hard one if you go ff vs ff but if you pull out Indus stuff or revolt you might have chance.
G's Thoughts:
Both FF and FI work I think. I assume you can't break China with aggro FF (not sure tho, maybe musk+2falc+lancers puts enough pressure to give decisive advantage in the follow up) so FI might be the default strat.
Vs Fre:
One of the hardest MUs perhaps. The SG FF is fine, also classic eco FF with 8 pikes age up and early 2 falc is probably fine on some maps (like on NE you can hold tower with that and just contain French). The xbow stuff isn't super effective. Musk semi is probably fine (you go aggro to force Fre making musks themselves, then not having fast age up is not big deal with xbow age up + training units in transition). ATP strats probably fine, TP+schooner FF probably fine.
Vs Germany:
This mu is spain favoured,skrims rods just dunks germany along with lancers + 2 falcs.
G's Thoughts:
It's similar to French, except naked eco FF is maybe a bit worse because of the free ulhans in colonial (which make for a more annoying semi than a 5 huss one). Xbow/pikes FI feels more effective somehow.
Vs Japan:
This depends a bit on how good the opponent is. Standard FF with musk/falc/lancer is intuitively good
->Std ff into musks +lancers + 2 falcs.
->If he does club rush with ashsi prolly send CM and make some xbows.
Vs India:
->Not an easy MU for Spain. Even just mass sepoy in colonial can be tough for Spain FF, while SG eco FF gives time to India to age up. FI might be interesting but I'm not sure it's that great vs India.
Vs Lakota:
->Can do many things vs Sioux. Basic HI rush is probably fine if Sioux doesn't adapt well. Xbow/pike rush is probably ok (even if Sioux adapts well it's not granted win). Musk semi should be fine. FF should be fine. Just make sure to not die to Sioux units in the fortress age by picking bad fights. Shouldn't really try to attack unless it's some sort of very all in FF (which I don't think works in the end ). Fish boom FF or semi FF should be ok. ATP FF is probably ok if you get multiple TPs.
Vs Iro:
->Standard FF with SG should be fine, also other variations of FF (Don't aggro FF unless they try to rush). Xbow/pike FI is probably fine too but get a good defense in early age3.
Vs Dutch:
A good mu for spain i think std ff with skrims ,lancers ,rods works.
->Either aggressive FF with skirm+pike/rods+2 falcs + lancers or ATP or SG FFs. Going eco war vs Dutch isn't great imo becuase Dutch tend to outlast and always have the upper hand in the skirm war too but with ATP or SG you can fight long enough to get unction and occasionally lancer switch can win the game too. FI is an option too but I think Dutch can deal with that just fine (mostly going industrial themselves at some point).
Vs Ports:
->Spain nukes Ports ,traditional stuff should still be fine, but also xbow/pike FI.
Vs Swedes:
->Aggressive musk start or even 2 rax xbow should be ok. Musk semi should be ok. xbow/pike FI should be ok. Eco FF in base should be ok but then you risk to get outplayed as you move out on the map. ATP FF maybe better.
->Piro FF.
Vs Otto:
->Just FF and play safe, you should get the upper hand at some point. It's harder if Otto goes for some stagecoach semi. Vs 2rax jan all in now you don't even need CM anymore as you always age at 18/20 pop no problem with 8xbows. Might even skip the starting market in this MU just to speed up everything.
Glossary:
SG:Spanish gold ,a shipment in age 3.
Std ff:Aging with tower+200c to age 2 & aging with 4huss/8 pikes ,Note you can also age with xbows if he makes musks type units only & also became common sending SG in age 3.
Xbow/pike FI:Doing the same thing as std ff except you age with 8pikes/xbows to age 3 and to age 4 the guard ups for them.
MU:Match up
Credits:
Thanks to Garja ,Hazza ,diarouga,poisson,Flontier.
All these people in the list are very good at the game & well experienced ,pro players
Any recordings/replays/vods posted will be helpful
I will edit this post once more when info about the MUs are posted on this thread & keep it updated
