How is area damage calculated?

[howlingwolfpaw]

How does the damage done by units with area attack get calculated? is it different with siege units vs melee vs grenadiers/ chakrams?

Does the melee unit create a area of damage central to around its body or central to the unit it is attacking?

any information on this appreciated.

[HeatitUP_]

Someone needs to teach an AOE3 math class lol

[Ikilled4penguins]

What's also interesting is the area effect of the explorer swashbuckler attack. Sometimes you click on one area, but the swashbuckle kills units in an area like 20ft away

[howlingwolfpaw]

i dont need complete algorithms prolly would be beyond my understanding but just wondering if there is a easy way to understand how it works.

[musketeer925]

Probably no way to find out other than getting your hands on the AoE3 source code. The best you could do is experiment with it in some well designed tests.

[HeatitUP_]

There should be a math course called "AOE3 quantum reasoning" for college credits or something like that lol

[BraveDryWall]

As you are farther from the area damage dealing unit you take less damage.

[Panmaster]

It's hardcoded.
Grenadiers seem to have a low damage cap based on observation.
It used to be said cuirassiers and samurai have 2x damage cap.
Indian monks have a 3x damage cap for certain.

[howlingwolfpaw]

so after the first attack, most units can only deal out another set of damage, like a Gend does attack of 66, but the most damage it will do is 132? I am wondering because urumi seem to be so much more stronger with a small area damage than others.

[adderbrain5]

There should be a math course called "AOE3 quantum reasoning" for college credits or something like that lol

might be the only math that ever interested me

[noissance]

Experiment Design:
1. Mod files to give area damage unit 100 damage exactly (for simplicity sake)
2. give enemy infantry 100 hp exactly
3. try different formations and lines bases on distance between units
4. repeat a minimum of 3 times
5. repeat for all area damage units

[Ikilled4penguins]

There should be a math course called "AOE3 quantum reasoning" for college credits or something like that lol

Pretty sure the math in Aoe doesn't go past 8th grade algebra. Please let me know if I'm wrong.

Of course someone could try to apply high level math like complex systems of equations to predict outcomes for like macro economics. That would be pretty sweet.

[Kaiserklein]

I actually knew how this works, sadly I forgot. Maybe @Rikikipu

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remembers ?

All I can say now is that units with area damage usually attack only a limited amount of units. Example : if you do the long range shot with a monitor, you'll be able to hit 3 units max, regardless of how many there are in the area of effect. Probs is the unit targeted + 2 closest units. I don't have exact numbers for other units, but I noticed it also works for spahies/cuirs : sometimes you're trying to hit a falc, and it doesn't work because the area of effect splits only among some musks, even though the falc is very close to those musks.

[Rikikipu]

Sorry, I've never known how it works :(
Though I got a feeling that it is related to the invisible tiles in the map :

[Kaiserklein]

wow u is suk

[momuuu]

Id assume its just damage that either linearily or exponentially decays to zero at the end of the area. Honestly doesnt really matter which it is.

[lemmings121]

There is a damage cap that is different for every unit, as you can see in the best aoe site in the world (rip)

about the indian monk: according to the table, it has att4 and cap 40, thats 10x att lol, almost the same for sioux, 6att, 50 cap

[Garja]

How does damage cap works with area damage?

[gibson]

Sorry, I've never known how it works :(
Though I got a feeling that it is related to the invisible tiles in the map :

Wow, thanks a lot for not being there for the community when we needed you most.

[Kaiserklein]

How does damage cap works with area damage?

I think its the total damage that can be split into the several units of the area. For example if you have 10 attack and 30 cap, you will deal 10 to the unit you aim and then up to 20 other damage split into other units in the area. I think the aim of this cap is to avoid splash damage to be op, even if you have 10 units all grouped super close to each other the area attack wont damage all units because of the cap.
At least thats my guess

[lemmings121]

How does damage cap works with area damage?

I think its the total damage that can be split into the several units of the area. For example if you have 10 attack and 30 cap, you will deal 10 to the unit you aim and then up to 20 other damage split into other units in the area. I think the aim of this cap is to avoid splash damage to be op, even if you have 10 units all grouped super close to each other the area attack wont damage all units because of the cap.
At least thats my guess

I believe thats how it works too.

A quick test cenario editor should be able to confirm that.... someone?

[babbul]

Probably no way to find out other than getting your hands on the AoE3 source code. The best you could do is experiment with it in some well designed tests.

how do i do taht?

[ShinkuroYukinari]

Probably no way to find out other than getting your hands on the AoE3 source code. The best you could do is experiment with it in some well designed tests.

how do i do taht?

Holy necro Batman!

[ǝɯɐuɹǝsn]

I actually knew how this works, sadly I forgot. Maybe @Rikikipu

notification

remembers ?

All I can say now is that units with area damage usually attack only a limited amount of units. Example : if you do the long range shot with a monitor, you'll be able to hit 3 units max, regardless of how many there are in the area of effect. Probs is the unit targeted + 2 closest units. I don't have exact numbers for other units, but I noticed it also works for spahies/cuirs : sometimes you're trying to hit a falc, and it doesn't work because the area of effect splits only among some musks, even though the falc is very close to those musks.

it maybe work for monitor (I've not checked it) but It's not true for spahis and other unit area damage (cuir, ronin etc), you can hit way more than 3 unit, if they are close enought

[macacoalbino]

I believe that was just an arbitrary example