AOE4 Pricing

[n0el]

to be fair, jerom has been clear he doesn't like 3DE for reasons other than the game. he doesn't like the gameplay changes which EP drove, not Microsoft.

[princeofcarthage]

Many people have those underlying reasons though

[RefluxSemantic]

to be fair, jerom has been clear he doesn't like 3DE for reasons other than the game. he doesn't like the gameplay changes which EP drove, not Microsoft.

There is also a difference between a remake/expansion or an entirely new game. For a new game I'd get 20-100 hours of fun just figuring out how it works, even if its meh (and if its great it'll be thousands of hours. This DE? Maybe a few hours?

[Cocaine]

For a new game I'd get 20-100 hours of fun just figuring out how it works

I didn't know IQ can fall into the negatives

[iNcog]

From the video Dolan posted, it seems the units in AOEIV are going to be sluggish, clunky and unresponsive.

[harcha]

That can be fixed quite easily, the game speed can be changed in AOE titles.

[blasdg]

I dont know, but the graphics look so... cheap?! Cartoony? really really dislike them, cant even tell why to be honest...

[Dolan]

The graphics are not that bad, kinda looks like League with those cartoonish patches of grass and rocks. Though personally I care less about graphics and more about mechanics.
I've seen better graphics, though, even in games made by smaller studios, tbh. Look at the graphics from Manor Lords, made by some small company from Eastern Europe:



This is a Total War sort of RTS, though, so you can only micro big groups of armies probably. But still, they managed to create very realistic natural graphics.
So, if you compare how AOE4 looks like with some upcoming RTS games from this year, it's neither the best looking nor the worst, it's in the middle.
It's the mechanics that don't look that great so far, but we'll see more when it comes out.

Btw, it's worth checking out that entire video, it shows all the major upcoming RTS games for this year.

[RefluxSemantic]

I think in terms of looks, there is a significant amount of compromise necessary for readability. Some bits of aoe4 looked great to me.

[Jotunir]

The graphics are not that bad, kinda looks like League with those cartoonish patches of grass and rocks. Though personally I care less about graphics and more about mechanics.
I've seen better graphics, though, even in games made by smaller studios, tbh. Look at the graphics from Manor Lords, made by some small company from Eastern Europe:



This is a Total War sort of RTS, though, so you can only micro big groups of armies probably. But still, they managed to create very realistic natural graphics.
So, if you compare how AOE4 looks like with some upcoming RTS games from this year, it's neither the best looking nor the worst, it's in the middle.
It's the mechanics that don't look that great so far, but we'll see more when it comes out.

Btw, it's worth checking out that entire video, it shows all the major upcoming RTS games for this year.

I am really skeptic about it, they already did some major damage to the franchise with this so called "definitive" editions.
Manor lords seems like a good game, I will check it out.
Have you seen Age of the Ring graphics? They are outstanding.

[bobabu]

You guys are complaining about 60 dollars. We have to pay 83 dollars. That's more than Aoe 3 was on release.

Bad comparison, the swiss franc is a very strong currency.
I expect the game to cost 50€ or 45€ instead of 60€ during its first sale (which might happen during christmas, but I somehow doubt it).
New AAA games mostly take at least 6 months until they go on sale for the first time.

How is it a bad comparison? The European Union doesn't allow this kind of discrimination. They are just abusing the fact that we are a small country with less power. It's not about wealth.

[Mr_Bramboy]

Turns out not joining a mega economic union might have its downsides.

[InsectPoison]

Turns out not joining a mega economic union might have its downsides.

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[bobabu]

You guys are complaining about 60 dollars. We have to pay 83 dollars. That's more than Aoe 3 was on release.

Bad comparison, the swiss franc is a very strong currency.
I expect the game to cost 50€ or 45€ instead of 60€ during its first sale (which might happen during christmas, but I somehow doubt it).
New AAA games mostly take at least 6 months until they go on sale for the first time.

Norwegians are wealthier. Valve suggested price is so much lower.

[aaryngend]

You guys are complaining about 60 dollars. We have to pay 83 dollars. That's more than Aoe 3 was on release.

Bad comparison, the swiss franc is a very strong currency.
I expect the game to cost 50€ or 45€ instead of 60€ during its first sale (which might happen during christmas, but I somehow doubt it).
New AAA games mostly take at least 6 months until they go on sale for the first time.

Norwegians are wealthier. Valve suggested price is so much lower.

In return, Norwegians seem to earn more. It all evens out in the end. Higher wages but also higher prices.
There is the case of actually being wealthier and just looking wealthier on paper.

Die Eidgenossen werden nun mal gerne zur Kasse gebeten

[bobabu]

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You guys are complaining about 60 dollars. We have to pay 83 dollars. That's more than Aoe 3 was on release.

Bad comparison, the swiss franc is a very strong currency.
I expect the game to cost 50€ or 45€ instead of 60€ during its first sale (which might happen during christmas, but I somehow doubt it).
New AAA games mostly take at least 6 months until they go on sale for the first time.

Norwegians are wealthier. Valve suggested price is so much lower.

In return, Norwegians seem to earn more. It all evens out in the end. Higher wages but also higher prices.
There is the case of actually being wealthier and just looking wealthier on paper.

Die Eidgenossen werden nun mal gerne zur Kasse gebeten

What I am saying it's disproportionate. It's cheaper in Norway. Nowhere is the difference between the valve suggested price and the actual price bigger than in Switzerland.

[helln00]

Currency value isnt based on wealth though, its just the market value of the currency on the market. with that being said the franc is known to be overvalued, possibly due to market intervention, a reason why its always on the list of candidates for the US currency manipulator list

[Dolan]

Currency value isnt based on wealth though, its just the market value of the currency on the market. with that being said the franc is known to be overvalued, possibly due to market intervention, a reason why its always on the list of candidates for the US currency manipulator list

The Swiss franc is overvalued because it's considered one of the safest currencies to buy when other assets are underperforming. So investors speculatively buy lots of francs, which artificially drives its value relative to other currencies. Then the Swiss national bank is forced to intervene to defend its currency, otherwise their exports would be destroyed.
Blame this global system of financial speculation of which American investors are the main drivers and beneficiaries.

[helln00]

Currency value isnt based on wealth though, its just the market value of the currency on the market. with that being said the franc is known to be overvalued, possibly due to market intervention, a reason why its always on the list of candidates for the US currency manipulator list

The Swiss franc is overvalued because it's considered one of the safest currencies to buy when other assets are underperforming. So investors speculatively buy lots of francs, which artificially drives its value relative to other currencies. Then the Swiss national bank is forced to intervene to defend its currency, otherwise their exports would be destroyed.
Blame this global system of financial speculation of which American investors are the main drivers and beneficiaries.

I mean yeah, there are good reasons for it, needing to maintain stable-ish exchange rates for an export economy is probably top of the list and with the US being the dominant currency its going to be done on some level. It just has some funny consequences

[ChewSick]

tbh this is something Steam and many other games like League of Legends have done for years.. they just put higher prices because they know the Swiss are paying it anyway.

I just dislike the model of having to pay $60+ instead of having a cheap access with the possibility to buy ingame stuff. With these high prices i doubt we will get a big playerbase beyond the AoE Fans

[Cocaine]

Not to sound like a broken record but I just checked the price of AOE4 on Steam again in my Canadian dollars and ya its 80$ and 100$ for delux which I will get.. Thats the most expensive game I have ever purchased like what the hell... That is insane.

[Garja]

aoe4 is so hyped that most buyers are unelastic to a charged premium price

[RefluxSemantic]

Aoe4 is hyped in the sense that its a triple A game that people are willing to pay triple A prices for.

Anyone complaining about aoe4's price point is just doing effort to showcase that they are an entitled whiner.

[aaryngend]

aoe4 is so hyped that most buyers are unelastic to a charged premium price

Spoken like an (ex-)economics student. Price elasticity of demand is a very interesting concept.

[Garja]

Aoe4 is hyped in the sense that its a triple A game that people are willing to pay triple A prices for.

Anyone complaining about aoe4's price point is just doing effort to showcase that they are an entitled whiner.

It is hyped beyond that, the premium price is more for it being the 20 year waited installement in the franchise.
So if a fair price would be 60$ , they can charge it 80$ and they barely lose any buyer.