Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread

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Dopps do well against small numbers of ash, but en masse yeah they just get dumped on. Ashi have horrendous base melee damage so if you can get them in melee with anything that isnt cav they're barely better than pikes. Of course if there's 30 ashi you cant get them all in melee...
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Hazza54321 wrote:Eh you were so outmassed with your army split
The military populations were even :(
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deleted_user wrote:
Hazza54321 wrote:Eh you were so outmassed with your army split
The military populations were even :(
You've got 12 ish uhlans, that's 24 useless pop
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deleted_user wrote:
Hazza54321 wrote:Eh you were so outmassed with your army split
The military populations were even :(
That actually means you were outmassed. Ashigaru are about 1.2 military population while counting for 1 military population. Germany on the other hand has uhlans which count for 2 military population, yet they are only worth about 1.5 military population.
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@Cometk what's wrong with my Huss micro?
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@deleted_user4 speaking of your left flank here, at 00:39, you go back with your hussars despite your opponent having not much anti-cavalry left alive. you could've just gone further in and attack moved, and split up your hussars. after you had gone back you didn't reposition small groups of hussars to spread out the damage, so they all clumped up and ran around each other. i think you capped your DPS and could've won this fight harder, but given that 11 changdao's popped when you were about to clean, you likely would've had to've gone back no matter what.

bottom line though is you are retreating your hussars too often when you don't need to. instead of retreating your hussars and losing time that you could be dealing damage, simply dragbox a small group, reposition them horizontally, and attack move them. this means you aren't wasting time and damage and your hussars will clump less.
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i think you shoulda tried surrounding more with hus. it coulda worked when he had small number of anticav left
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Yeah you bitched out basically. You should be pulling back only 2-3 hussars the ones getting attacked specifically and probably grabbing a few in the back lines and swinging them through to the skirms.
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_H2O wrote:Yeah you bitched out basically. You should be pulling back only 2-3 hussars the ones getting attacked specifically and probably grabbing a few in the back lines and swinging them through to the skirms.
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deleted_user wrote:@Cometk what's wrong with my Huss micro?
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/558472024
That battle is actually close because even tho you have lot of huss you don't have that many musks to snipe off anticav while huss makes their way throught.
In open field you can probably just smash in everything without moving at all and poweplay it. In the trees with buildings blocking pathing etc. it's not ideal.
Battle starts with his anticav on the wrong side so it's good for you. He only has some redcoats on the left against which you move away 25 huss (which is ton of dps). Should just don't move at all or move the very few huss targeted by redcoats in meelee. Bear in mind that your not so many musks are gonna suffer a bit so if you move all your huss you have very low dps for too long.
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Yeah surround more and pull back fewer huss while targeting anti cav with your inf
Also generally speaking, splitting your cav in 2 groups can help in this kind of situation
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Hazza54321 wrote:
_H2O wrote:Yeah you bitched out basically. You should be pulling back only 2-3 hussars the ones getting attacked specifically and probably grabbing a few in the back lines and swinging them through to the skirms.
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I’m married now so it went pretty well! The whole day turned out very nicely and we got to celebrate it with all our close family and friends! :)
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_H2O wrote:
Hazza54321 wrote:
_H2O wrote:Yeah you bitched out basically. You should be pulling back only 2-3 hussars the ones getting attacked specifically and probably grabbing a few in the back lines and swinging them through to the skirms.
How did the wedding go my man
I’m married now so it went pretty well!
Seems like a pretty low bar to clear for a wedding
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Thats kind of a shitty thing to say
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
_H2O wrote:
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I’m married now so it went pretty well!
Seems like a pretty low bar to clear for a wedding
you cant take it for granted, that is the whole goal
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gibson wrote:Thats kind of a shitty thing to say
I just meant it as a joke, like if he ended up married but a tornado destroyed the venue it would not have gone well.
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
_H2O wrote:
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I’m married now so it went pretty well!
Seems like a pretty low bar to clear for a wedding
ok now i hate you and i see why everyone hate u
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_H2O wrote:Yeah you bitched out basically. You should be pulling back only 2-3 hussars the ones getting attacked specifically and probably grabbing a few in the back lines and swinging them through to the skirms.
h2o coaching SIrCallen PART 2 when?
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This thread is turning into a resounding success.
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did y'all see that sick musk mele mode at 12 seconds tho. So slick, basically a single frame action.
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@deleted_user4 here's the cav micro clip

https://clips.twitch.tv/ResilientEnticingMelonPrimeMe

Not as crisp as I remembered, but still kinda shows how to commit to a fight while pulling back only the huss in contact with anti cav and split your cav in 2 groups
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That music is just the worst shit iv ever heard in my entire life
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Cause it's mostly about the lyrics and you can't understand them
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Kaiserklein wrote:@deleted_user4 here's the cav micro clip

https://clips.twitch.tv/ResilientEnticingMelonPrimeMe

Not as crisp as I remembered, but still kinda shows how to commit to a fight while pulling back only the huss in contact with anti cav and split your cav in 2 groups
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