Buff spies?
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Kynesie wrote:I think we should have a card that allows monitor to navigate on the earth
Or a card that combine advanced baloon with fragate
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Expect many marginalized core game features to be buffed with EP7. In the mean time, a balance update is overdue by three quarters of a year.
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you can scout the map and put them in stealth, sure, but they cost coin and above all constantly take 2 pop at the very least
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In all seriousness what really needs to happen is the hot air balloon should be able to drop bombs and be like a flying monitor.
last time i cryed was because i stood on Lego
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Rikikipu wrote:I'd say spy original goal is :
- Killing mercs/explorers
- spying/scouting the map
They are definitely ok for the point 1, they already do insane damages to mercs/explorers.
However, they are not great for scouting.
I'd say mostly because you don't want to be spotted when you scout, hence the stealth mode ability, but on the other hand stealth mode makes your unit move too slowly for scouting properly.
I'd try to make stealth mode ability lowering speed by 15% (instead of 50%) and eventually a cost and attack decrease to see how it goes for spies
Yup really like this idea.
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I don't really think decreasing the stealth mode penalty is a great idea. I would rather just increase spy speed a bit more to compensate.
Unless you mean to only decrease it for spies, in which case I don't really care.
Unless you mean to only decrease it for spies, in which case I don't really care.
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Mitoe wrote:I don't really think decreasing the stealth mode penalty is a great idea. I would rather just increase spy speed a bit more to compensate.
Unless you mean to only decrease it for spies, in which case I don't really care.
Yeah I was thinking for spies only; since stealth is supposed to be kind of their specialty.
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I think spies having stealth is a misplaced mechanic because there is generally just one unit that can spot spies and that's the unit they are supposed to be good against (the explorer).ovi12 wrote:Mitoe wrote:I don't really think decreasing the stealth mode penalty is a great idea. I would rather just increase spy speed a bit more to compensate.
Unless you mean to only decrease it for spies, in which case I don't really care.
Yeah I was thinking for spies only; since stealth is supposed to be kind of their specialty.
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edeholland wrote:I think spies having stealth is a misplaced mechanic because there is generally just one unit that can spot spies and that's the unit they are supposed to be good against (the explorer).ovi12 wrote:Mitoe wrote:I don't really think decreasing the stealth mode penalty is a great idea. I would rather just increase spy speed a bit more to compensate.
Unless you mean to only decrease it for spies, in which case I don't really care.
Yeah I was thinking for spies only; since stealth is supposed to be kind of their specialty.
Yeah that seems kind of weird, but I think we should leave it; no need to nerf spies even more.
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- Imperial Noob
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Only spies an ninjas should see spies. This way an explorer jammed into a ball of shooting units and some mercs will not prevent spies from sneaking in and doing damage
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Imperial Noob wrote:Only spies an ninjas should see spies. This way an explorer jammed into a ball of shooting units and some mercs will not prevent spies from sneaking in and doing damage
Then how would civs without spies ever see them or counter them?
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l2p kids
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pecelot wrote:The summary with all units and buildings with a „Sees stealth tag":
Spies, Ninjas, Envoys, Explorers/War Chiefs/Heroes, Native Scout, Shinobis; Town Centers, Agra Forts, European Forts.
edeholland wrote:I think spies having stealth is a misplaced mechanic because there is generally just one unit that can spot spies and that's the unit they are supposed to be good against (the explorer).
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That's what I mean, generally just one unit.
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dansil92 wrote:Imperial Noob wrote:Only spies an ninjas should see spies. This way an explorer jammed into a ball of shooting units and some mercs will not prevent spies from sneaking in and doing damage
Then how would civs without spies ever see them or counter them?
Warchiefs would still be hard to kill. One would need many spies and that costs a lot. Besides, natives have no mercenaries. As for Asians, Japansese can build shinobis from their consulate or teleport the monks, Indians have British consulate spies and are not soo much reliant on their explorers anyway, and Chinese monk, just like Warchiefs, would be hard to kill anyway. If the enemy kills your monk with 3x125 spies, you can always buy him back for... 375 !
- t3rror1sta
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Re: Buff spies?
ovi12 wrote:In all seriousness what really needs to happen is the hot air balloon should be able to drop bombs and be like a flying monitor.
Balloon gona be like ship. Put a granadier in it, and they become a single unit dropping bombs.
And only artilarys can hit it, cause of the altitude
gg
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ovi12 wrote:In all seriousness what really needs to happen is the hot air balloon should be able to drop bombs and be like a flying monitor.
The divine bovine has made His demands, Esoc must comply
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rsy wrote:ovi12 wrote:In all seriousness what really needs to happen is the hot air balloon should be able to drop bombs and be like a flying monitor.
The divine bovine has made His demands, Esoc must comply
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ovi12 wrote:rsy wrote:ovi12 wrote:In all seriousness what really needs to happen is the hot air balloon should be able to drop bombs and be like a flying monitor.
The divine bovine has made His demands, Esoc must comply
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Was just kidding my dude
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rsy wrote:ovi12 wrote:Show hidden quotes
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Was just kidding my dude
Yeah lol but I forgot if ovi means a bovine in another language? I'm curious cause it seems like I've seen this before but for the life of me I can't remember where.
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ovi12 wrote:rsy wrote:Show hidden quotes
Was just kidding my dude
Yeah lol but I forgot if ovi means a bovine in another language? I'm curious cause it seems like I've seen this before but for the life of me I can't remember where.
Just an esoc joke as far as I remember. I think it was zoom who started it
Edit: yep it was zoom
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edeholland wrote:That's what I mean, generally just one unit.
I thibk the sucky part is that they unstealth to attack. Now if they didnt,would be cooler. Though they kinda would be like dark templars in sc2, but because they move slowly in stealth, its ok i think.
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I reemember 2 or 3 yrs ago a scenario where the players had stealthed moving towers, cant find it sadly...
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