why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
Just an existential question but I don't understand why this bonus exist. it doesn't make sense at all and it makes defense even more stronger, especially against falcs. (I play spain). So many civs can cancel two falcs with a bit of vill micro. nonsense
And of course, nobody has complain about it during all these time.
Also I think coureur des bois attack should be nerf. With french, you have a bunch of 20-25 free unraidables mousketaires lol too much for this cheated civ.
And of course, nobody has complain about it during all these time.
Also I think coureur des bois attack should be nerf. With french, you have a bunch of 20-25 free unraidables mousketaires lol too much for this cheated civ.
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Re: why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
I mean, a regular vil with 3 attack deals 1.5 damage to cannons with the multiplier, and would deal 0.75 without. I don't think it's a big deal. In melee they deal 10 vs everything, and they don't have any multiplier.
Cdbs are better but that's precisely the point of being cdbs. They're definitely not unraidable anyway
Cdbs are better but that's precisely the point of being cdbs. They're definitely not unraidable anyway
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Re: why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
I am very frustrated against this civ... At least this stupid vill bonus against artillery should be remove Imo
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Re: why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
maybe stop trying to Halb FF versus french then and play standard spanish, problem equals solved
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Re: why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
Yea all in ff as spain are suuuuper garbage vs french. I mean, 20 cdb can hold the piro ff by themself
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I think it's good, adds an extra element of strategy/micro: can you micro your vills to kill the falcs or do you lose too many? risk/reward kind of thing
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I think standard spanish may be a bit better but still fail. So the game last 20mn (and very boring game) instead of 10mn.I_HaRRiiSoN_I wrote:maybe stop trying to Halb FF versus french then and play standard spanish, problem equals solved
Re: why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
So what's your position? You don't like it because you want your all in timing to work regardless of opponent or what?draztik wrote:I think standard spanish may be a bit better but still fail. So the game last 20mn (and very boring game) instead of 10mn.I_HaRRiiSoN_I wrote:maybe stop trying to Halb FF versus french then and play standard spanish, problem equals solved
Re: why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
Yes french have a very strong defense and they can 12/10 also and reach age III before spain with a very good eco....chronique wrote:Yea all in ff as spain are suuuuper garbage vs french. I mean, 20 cdb can hold the piro ff by themself
But In many matchup FF halb is not all in if you can send spanish gold and 1k wood at the good timing . To have only 10-12 villagers is sometimes a big advantage because you are unraidable. You just have to catch gold near your tc and produce falcs.
Of course many player are aware about this build now but I don't consider it "all in" and it is a powerfull strategy in many matchup. This strategy should deserve a very big topic Imo.
Starting wood and age III 8 arbas make this strat strong in DE. It was not the case at all in aoe III legacy
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yeschris1089 wrote:So what's your position? You don't like it because you want your all in timing to work regardless of opponent or what?draztik wrote:I think standard spanish may be a bit better but still fail. So the game last 20mn (and very boring game) instead of 10mn.I_HaRRiiSoN_I wrote:maybe stop trying to Halb FF versus french then and play standard spanish, problem equals solved
Re: why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
End of meaningful discussion then I guess.
Re: why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
It was not sarcastic, my position is to remove this villager bonus against artilley.
Re: why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
I mean, why ?
It's a pretty cool thing to melee canns with villagers. It looks like you want it to be removed because it doesn't fit your spain ff => push.
I play brit, is it possible to remove skirm ? They kill my musk. :(
It's a pretty cool thing to melee canns with villagers. It looks like you want it to be removed because it doesn't fit your spain ff => push.
I play brit, is it possible to remove skirm ? They kill my musk. :(
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Re: why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
"cheat civ"
why don't you try doing something other than 12/10 halb all-in. if you get good you might even discover that spain doesn't auto-lose at 20 minutes with normal play
why don't you try doing something other than 12/10 halb all-in. if you get good you might even discover that spain doesn't auto-lose at 20 minutes with normal play
POC wrote:Also I most likely know a whole lot more than you.
POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
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Re: why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
Yeah not like spain even loses to france anyway, the MU is fine
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Re: why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
but kaiser explained to you that the bonus don't apply to melee damage, and it's how you attack canon with vills right? so it's nonsense to complain about thatdraztik wrote:It was not sarcastic, my position is to remove this villager bonus against artilley.
Re: why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
It exists for the sole purpose of beating Piro and Piro imposters. It's a mechanism that had to be implemented after Piro was deemed too good by the Developers.
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Re: why villagers do have a bonus against artillery
I mean if you let villagers get close enough to your cannon then I think you deserve to lose them...
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