No Flag OrangeRage
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21 Feb 2017, 22:48

When is it fair to rightly blame someone for a loss and other times is it just dumb to blame others for the loss?

One example is when you are the one to fight off raids and attack 2 v 1 or fight the sea while your other two teammates boom and then say you suck because your eco is not as good as theirs.... or when someone ff's and you get double teamed as a result and your the one that sucks because you can't defend your herds 2 v 1
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21 Feb 2017, 23:37

I think it's only fair to blame someone for a loss, when they a) don't play as part of the team or b) don't listen, which is also linked to part a). If you're the only one defending raids against double cav and you say that it's a problem and they still continue to ff/blame you then the loss is on them. If 2 people say rush, and the other guy proceeds to FI, then blame them. But if you all fb together, attack and then lose because the cav guy made 2 less cav and didn't micro properly, then it's probably their fault, however that's a situation where it's better to just point out the mistake, and avoid crossing the line into flaming/blaming because that's the only way people get better.
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22 Feb 2017, 00:20

You can never blame a teammate if you are playing 3v3 random with randoms... If you click green into this situation youre bringing it on yourself honestly.
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22 Feb 2017, 00:22

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22 Feb 2017, 00:23

always blame your mate if you lose
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22 Feb 2017, 00:31

the american way
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22 Feb 2017, 01:35

blaming your teammates for anything has become the colloquial style in aoe3 years ago.
it doesnt even rlly matter if you loose or win a game, players just generally like to state that they play like greek gods on meth whilst everybody else is worthless trash.

3v3 randoms are just random.
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22 Feb 2017, 01:36

gibson wrote:always blame your mate if you lose

or win. bec you obviously won 1 vs 2 !
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22 Feb 2017, 01:44

AOEisLOVE_AOEisLIFE wrote:blaming your teammates for anything has become the colloquial style in aoe3 years ago.
it doesnt even rlly matter if you loose or win a game, players just generally like to state that they play like greek gods on meth whilst everybody else is worthless trash.

3v3 randoms are just random.

IT seems like 3/4 of games now have people that decide they are going to team. It sucks but it isn't like you have options when it comes to actually playing a team game.
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22 Feb 2017, 02:55

OrangeRage wrote:
AOEisLOVE_AOEisLIFE wrote:blaming your teammates for anything has become the colloquial style in aoe3 years ago.
it doesnt even rlly matter if you loose or win a game, players just generally like to state that they play like greek gods on meth whilst everybody else is worthless trash.

3v3 randoms are just random.

IT seems like 3/4 of games now have people that decide they are going to team. It sucks but it isn't like you have options when it comes to actually playing a team game.

i noticed this too. Weird that some years ago, I kept searching for real team games (Team 1 vs Team 2) but everybody just wanted random.
This is why N3O was the best way for unstressful team games. No flames, just some bros and sisters having fun.
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22 Feb 2017, 06:28

samwise12 wrote:@H2O_

Post. Of. The. Year.
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22 Feb 2017, 09:02

Cough 3xv 1xw
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22 Feb 2017, 10:57

what??
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22 Feb 2017, 11:03

Hi,
Iam not that confirm with the aoe3 online gaming community, but i learned from LOL, and there is always no reason to blame! Just focus on the game, dont waste your time and your breath....
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22 Feb 2017, 14:27

macacoalbino wrote:You can never blame a teammate if you are playing 3v3 random with randoms... If you click green into this situation youre bringing it on yourself honestly.

In my experience it usually ends in instant resign in those random 3v3.
Green up in lobby, sees team balance is utter shit ==> instantly resigns, 5 minutes later it repeat itself & when next host want random teams.
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22 Feb 2017, 21:46

aaryngend wrote:
OrangeRage wrote:
AOEisLOVE_AOEisLIFE wrote:blaming your teammates for anything has become the colloquial style in aoe3 years ago.
it doesnt even rlly matter if you loose or win a game, players just generally like to state that they play like greek gods on meth whilst everybody else is worthless trash.

3v3 randoms are just random.

IT seems like 3/4 of games now have people that decide they are going to team. It sucks but it isn't like you have options when it comes to actually playing a team game.

i noticed this too. Weird that some years ago, I kept searching for real team games (Team 1 vs Team 2) but everybody just wanted random.
This is why N3O was the best way for unstressful team games. No flames, just some bros and sisters having fun.

That's something Ryan complained about when he was streaming team games at some point last year, he didn't really like randomness with maps and teams. Which sounds fair if you aim for competitiveness and balanced gameplay.
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22 Feb 2017, 21:49

milku3459 wrote:
samwise12 wrote:@H2O_

Post. Of. The. Year.

Except he misspelled the name :(
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22 Feb 2017, 21:51

Maybe it was on purpose not to notify him :uglylol:
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23 Feb 2017, 01:03

What you wanna do in a team game that you've lost is just stop making units and stock pile res so your score goes up and you can flame your mate for having a low score
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23 Feb 2017, 02:15

flaming your team mate is bad manner - anyway you swing it! agree with @gibson
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23 Feb 2017, 04:50

Nothing wrong with a little blame gaming. And in the basement I'm pretty much always right.
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23 Feb 2017, 08:02

Tad team games= 90%mh, fake ranked, nobody able to Rush, Just boom and Lost vs asian civs. Games played like tr10. I can understand One that is able to play team games a bit become a flammer (except lucailgrande, he Just sux).
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23 Feb 2017, 08:04

r4go wrote:Tad team games= 90%mh, fake ranked, nobody able to Rush, Just boom and Lost vs asian civs. Games played like tr10. I can understand One that is able to play team games a bit become a flammer (except lucailgrande, he Just sux).
About tad There is Only One rule in team games: Who get the Most overranked and noob Lose This make You a blamer often

I think you spelt nilla wrong ;)
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23 Feb 2017, 08:06

Hazza54321 wrote:
r4go wrote:Tad team games= 90%mh, fake ranked, nobody able to Rush, Just boom and Lost vs asian civs. Games played like tr10. I can understand One that is able to play team games a bit become a flammer (except lucailgrande, he Just sux).
About tad There is Only One rule in team games: Who get the Most overranked and noob Lose This make You a blamer often

I think you spelt nilla wrong ;)

I think no
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23 Feb 2017, 08:12

Well, team games have a lot to do with coordination and cooperation. You simply can't work with everyone. You won't have a proper team structure 9 out of 10 times. Bm is unavoidable from both ways.
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