Is e-sport only for males?

[deleted_user0]

Guys are interested in things, girls are interested in people. Video games are a thing.

Remember that "play" is also training. A boy plays games that prepare him for his adult duties: combat, innovation, leadership, etc. A girl plays games that prepare her for her adult duties: spousal support, child-rearing, homemaking, etc. Competitive games by nature largely belong to the first category.

Competition is also fundamentally about status. Women generally don't desire to obtain the highest status. They would prefer to support someone who already has obtained it (or might) as a spouse.

Yin and Yang as the Japanese say.

it's funny how you can state things so matter of fact and basically have it all wrong. There are plenty of girls who actually play video games. And there is also social contact that comes about from playing games. This forum is only one example of that. Girls are definitely less visible, and that's 100% due to social interactions, not in the least due to people like you, who think its funny to hint that girls should become the victim of domestic battery, even though you try to veil it as a thinly disguised joke. The fact that you would even think thats funny (even if only a "troll") paints an unpleasant picture of your mind. Women are constantly attacked and harrassed for being women, this is true offline as well as online, but it's definitely more persistent online due to various reasons.

The paragraph about "play" is exactly the bigoted mindset that is keeping girls, and in that sense humanity, back in the their development. I feel sorry for your daughter if you ever have one, to be told be her father, who most likely hasn't ever lead or achieved anything in his life, that she can't be a leader because she should make him pasta and change his diapers.

There may very well be physical and psychological difference because of sex. But these attitudes unnecessarily reinforce those differences by social pressure and prejudice.

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It's about the extremes rather than the average; this is professional gaming, not amateur hour.

Yeah, but those sex differences which are based in hormones probably play a role even at the extremes. Ie, even the most talented gaming females are still probably less competitive than the most talented gaming males.
Also, grills probably realise early on that there's no point in trying to compete in a field for which they don't have mental/physical advantages (ie, the stuff I pointed to by quoting those pieces of research).

It's not just about gaming, there are other such fields and jobs. I haven't seen any female mechanic, for example, though I'm sure there must be some, it just doesn't seem like an interesting job for them.

This is why you will never understand discrimination. If the selection will naturally shift to a gender split, as you indicate, and might very well be true, then there is no reason to have a manmade split in place, unless it's to prevent serious physical harm. It's not because what you say discriminates against the average, it discriminates against the exception. And as your post already starts to illustrate, it shows quite clearly how people can take a biological generalisation to the extreme point of having social cultural impact. Inagine if you had a daughter, which you very well might have, its very likely you would instill these beliefs in here. She would be less likely to even try to compete. And the propheay fulfills itself. It at the least shows a poor understanding of the concept of average.

I see no reason to have gender splits in many sports. Really only fighting sports and other contact heavy sports. Most of what you say many people also thought about women and chess, and yet we have judith polgar. Even if shes only the extreme, it shows how unfair it is to her and to the spirit of competition, to exclude her from competing with best. It also makes you wonder how much of it comes down to the many hurdles of prejudice that may eventually prove too hard to overcome.

I dont believe in gender divisions in most cases, and i also dont believe that if we do divide, that there ought to be gender equal prize money, unless its an event such as the olympics.

well if there aren't gender division in sports than in almost all sports there would just be no female presence at all..........there are hardly any sports where at the top level women can compete with men. When I swam, played soccer, and played basketball up until college and in everyone of those sports once males hit about 12-14 years old they became much better than their female counter parts. I was nowhere near being collegiate level in basketball but could beat a girl who ended up player division 1 woman's basketball in 1v1 just cause I was bigger and stronger than she was. She was a more skilled player than me but lacked testosterone.

Nothing would really change i think, except that what we would call the women pro league would no just be another league, and probably not the highest one. but they can still play and compete

[vardar]

True, but in regards to having men and women compete...I feel as if for a woman, it would be tiring going into every competition knowing you will not make a final in the 100m, 200m, 1500m or whatever other event. The finals will consist of men/boys (minus extreme cases, like the New Jersey 400m star Sydney Mclaughlin) but even then, many boys beat her. So why have them together ...it will just bring women down almost every competition?

I guess I am not fully opposed to the idea but the way I see it, it would just not work for the best for both sexes. I saw the Olympics recently introduced 15 new events for the 2020 Olympics, 6 of which will be mixed, co-ed teams. I think more things like this would be cool and interesting, no?

In regards to equal pay, the market should determine how much athletes are paid, yes. I just find it sad how little many professional women make and wish it would change at least a little.

"The National Women's Soccer League has a pay ceiling per player of just $37,800. That's compared to an average of more than $300,000 and a median of about $100,000 for men's Major League Soccer. Each team in the NWSL has a salary cap of just $265,000—compared to more than $3 million for men."
http://time.com/money/4277843/us-womens ... equal-pay/

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It's about the extremes rather than the average; this is professional gaming, not amateur hour.

Yeah, but those sex differences which are based in hormones probably play a role even at the extremes. Ie, even the most talented gaming females are still probably less competitive than the most talented gaming males.
Also, grills probably realise early on that there's no point in trying to compete in a field for which they don't have mental/physical advantages (ie, the stuff I pointed to by quoting those pieces of research).

It's not just about gaming, there are other such fields and jobs. I haven't seen any female mechanic, for example, though I'm sure there must be some, it just doesn't seem like an interesting job for them.

This is why you will never understand discrimination. If the selection will naturally shift to a gender split, as you indicate, and might very well be true, then there is no reason to have a manmade split in place, unless it's to prevent serious physical harm. It's not because what you say discriminates against the average, it discriminates against the exception. And as your post already starts to illustrate, it shows quite clearly how people can take a biological generalisation to the extreme point of having social cultural impact. Inagine if you had a daughter, which you very well might have, its very likely you would instill these beliefs in here. She would be less likely to even try to compete. And the propheay fulfills itself. It at the least shows a poor understanding of the concept of average.

I see no reason to have gender splits in many sports. Really only fighting sports and other contact heavy sports. Most of what you say many people also thought about women and chess, and yet we have judith polgar. Even if shes only the extreme, it shows how unfair it is to her and to the spirit of competition, to exclude her from competing with best. It also makes you wonder how much of it comes down to the many hurdles of prejudice that may eventually prove too hard to overcome.

I dont believe in gender divisions in most cases, and i also dont believe that if we do divide, that there ought to be gender equal prize money, unless its an event such as the olympics.

well if there aren't gender division in sports than in almost all sports there would just be no female presence at all..........there are hardly any sports where at the top level women can compete with men. When I swam, played soccer, and played basketball up until college and in everyone of those sports once males hit about 12-14 years old they became much better than their female counter parts. I was nowhere near being collegiate level in basketball but could beat a girl who ended up player division 1 woman's basketball in 1v1 just cause I was bigger and stronger than she was. She was a more skilled player than me but lacked testosterone.

Nothing would really change i think, except that what we would call the women pro league would no just be another league, and probably not the highest one. but they can still play and compete

No thats not what would happen. Say they started allowing man into the woman's nba. What would happen is it would just become lower division NBA and literally no women would be able to play in it anymore since there are at least 10k men that are better than the best woman's player. Allowing men to play in woman's league would just turn the woman's league into another men's league, which is the reason why they're separated. I'm gonna use basketball as an example cause that's the sport I'm most familiar with, but a few years back Britney Griner was the best women's college basketball player. The general consensus was that she was about as good as the average division III men's basketball player. With 300ish teams in division I and 300ish division II teams that each have 13 scholarships that means there are a minimum 8k men that are better than her. So you really think that she would be able to play pro basketball if there wasn't a separate league for women? No she wouldn't.

[deleted_user0]

True, but in regards to having men and women compete...I feel as if for a woman, it would be tiring going into every competition knowing you will not make a final in the 100m, 200m, 1500m or whatever other event. The finals will consist of men/boys (minus extreme cases, like the New Jersey 400m star Sydney Mclaughlin) but even then, many boys beat her. So why have them together ...it will just bring women down almost every competition?

I guess I am not fully opposed to the idea but the way I see it, it would just not work for the best for both sexes. I saw the Olympics recently introduced 15 new events for the 2020 Olympics, 6 of which will be mixed, co-ed teams. I think more things like this would be cool and interesting, no?

yeah, you're right about that. And it's definitely problematic. Both systems have problems. One disadvantages the average, the other disadvantages the extreme.

In regards to equal pay, the market should determine how much athletes are paid, yes. I just find it sad how little many professional women make and wish it would change at least a little.

Well, you can make a difference by going to watch sports events where female athletes attend. Imo, when it comes to state sponsored events, equal pay should be the norm. but when it's commercial, i dont see why.

People say its unfair that male tennis champs make more money than female tennis champs. Thats one way to look at it. You can also say its unfair that the male #300 makes only a fraction of any female in the tennis top5, even though he would most likely dominate when playing them.

"The National Women's Soccer League has a pay ceiling per player of just $37,800. That's compared to an average of more than $300,000 and a median of about $100,000 for men's Major League Soccer. Each team in the NWSL has a salary cap of just $265,000—compared to more than $3 million for men."
http://time.com/money/4277843/us-womens ... equal-pay/

but where should the money come from to pay for higher salaries?

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It's about the extremes rather than the average; this is professional gaming, not amateur hour.

Yeah, but those sex differences which are based in hormones probably play a role even at the extremes. Ie, even the most talented gaming females are still probably less competitive than the most talented gaming males.
Also, grills probably realise early on that there's no point in trying to compete in a field for which they don't have mental/physical advantages (ie, the stuff I pointed to by quoting those pieces of research).

It's not just about gaming, there are other such fields and jobs. I haven't seen any female mechanic, for example, though I'm sure there must be some, it just doesn't seem like an interesting job for them.

This is why you will never understand discrimination. If the selection will naturally shift to a gender split, as you indicate, and might very well be true, then there is no reason to have a manmade split in place, unless it's to prevent serious physical harm. It's not because what you say discriminates against the average, it discriminates against the exception. And as your post already starts to illustrate, it shows quite clearly how people can take a biological generalisation to the extreme point of having social cultural impact. Inagine if you had a daughter, which you very well might have, its very likely you would instill these beliefs in here. She would be less likely to even try to compete. And the propheay fulfills itself. It at the least shows a poor understanding of the concept of average.

I see no reason to have gender splits in many sports. Really only fighting sports and other contact heavy sports. Most of what you say many people also thought about women and chess, and yet we have judith polgar. Even if shes only the extreme, it shows how unfair it is to her and to the spirit of competition, to exclude her from competing with best. It also makes you wonder how much of it comes down to the many hurdles of prejudice that may eventually prove too hard to overcome.

I dont believe in gender divisions in most cases, and i also dont believe that if we do divide, that there ought to be gender equal prize money, unless its an event such as the olympics.

well if there aren't gender division in sports than in almost all sports there would just be no female presence at all..........there are hardly any sports where at the top level women can compete with men. When I swam, played soccer, and played basketball up until college and in everyone of those sports once males hit about 12-14 years old they became much better than their female counter parts. I was nowhere near being collegiate level in basketball but could beat a girl who ended up player division 1 woman's basketball in 1v1 just cause I was bigger and stronger than she was. She was a more skilled player than me but lacked testosterone.

Nothing would really change i think, except that what we would call the women pro league would no just be another league, and probably not the highest one. but they can still play and compete

No thats not what would happen. Say they started allowing man into the woman's nba. What would happen is it would just become lower division NBA and literally no women would be able to play in it anymore since there are at least 10k men that are better than the best woman's player. Allowing men to play in woman's league would just turn the woman's league into another men's league, which is the reason why they're separated. I'm gonna use basketball as an example cause that's the sport I'm most familiar with, but a few years back Britney Griner was the best women's college basketball player. The general consensus was that she was about as good as the average division III men's basketball player. With 300ish teams in division I and 300ish division II teams that each have 13 scholarships that means there are a minimum 8k men that are better than her. So you really think that she would be able to play pro basketball if there wasn't a separate league for women? No she wouldn't.

she probably wouldnt, if all you did was split and then maintain the rest as the current system. In any case, what you said is basically what I said. The womens division I would become the general division III or perhaps even IV or V. What interests me then is this, how much do women in division I get paid (if any, because its college, so i dont know how this works) and how much do men in division III get paid? And how many spectators does the male division III attract, and women division I? Do you have any info on this?

She would still be able to play paid, and thus pro, if she was paid based on the spectators shed attract. Which is basically the fairest system. in any case, physical sports are also a different category from games/sports such as fps, rts or chess. and while i can definitely see the argument for splits as valid in physical sports, i dont see what value it adds to the latter category.

[Dolan]

This is why you will never understand discrimination. If the selection will naturally shift to a gender split, as you indicate, and might very well be true, then there is no reason to have a manmade split in place, unless it's to prevent serious physical harm. It's not because what you say discriminates against the average, it discriminates against the exception. And as your post already starts to illustrate, it shows quite clearly how people can take a biological generalisation to the extreme point of having social cultural impact. Inagine if you had a daughter, which you very well might have, its very likely you would instill these beliefs in here. She would be less likely to even try to compete. And the propheay fulfills itself. It at the least shows a poor understanding of the concept of average.

I see no reason to have gender splits in many sports. Really only fighting sports and other contact heavy sports. Most of what you say many people also thought about women and chess, and yet we have judith polgar. Even if shes only the extreme, it shows how unfair it is to her and to the spirit of competition, to exclude her from competing with best. It also makes you wonder how much of it comes down to the many hurdles of prejudice that may eventually prove too hard to overcome.

I dont believe in gender divisions in most cases, and i also dont believe that if we do divide, that there ought to be gender equal prize money, unless its an event such as the olympics.

If sexes were perfectly separated, without any overlap at the extremes, there would be no reason for sexual conflict (or attraction).
There is enough sexual difference and enough lack of sexual differentiation to ensure perpetual conflict.

[deleted_user0]

This is why you will never understand discrimination. If the selection will naturally shift to a gender split, as you indicate, and might very well be true, then there is no reason to have a manmade split in place, unless it's to prevent serious physical harm. It's not because what you say discriminates against the average, it discriminates against the exception. And as your post already starts to illustrate, it shows quite clearly how people can take a biological generalisation to the extreme point of having social cultural impact. Inagine if you had a daughter, which you very well might have, its very likely you would instill these beliefs in here. She would be less likely to even try to compete. And the propheay fulfills itself. It at the least shows a poor understanding of the concept of average.

I see no reason to have gender splits in many sports. Really only fighting sports and other contact heavy sports. Most of what you say many people also thought about women and chess, and yet we have judith polgar. Even if shes only the extreme, it shows how unfair it is to her and to the spirit of competition, to exclude her from competing with best. It also makes you wonder how much of it comes down to the many hurdles of prejudice that may eventually prove too hard to overcome.

I dont believe in gender divisions in most cases, and i also dont believe that if we do divide, that there ought to be gender equal prize money, unless its an event such as the olympics.

If sexes were perfectly separated, without any overlap at the extremes, there would be no reason for sexual conflict (or attraction).
There is enough sexual difference and enough lack of sexual differentiation to ensure perpetual conflict.

I didn't say that there is a perfect overlap. But these kind of bans are based on average results, and don't take exceptions into account. As such they also don't stimulate exceptional behaviour and reinforce the average, which they will then take as a justification for their policy, even though its at least partly caused by it. Many of the arguments brought forth by you and lejend have been used for a long time to exclude people of color to participate on the highest level of sports competition. See how that turned out.

On the note of separation, what league should transgenders participate in?

[Dolan]

...even though its at least partly caused by it. Many of the arguments brought forth by you and lejend have been used for a long time to exclude people of color to participate on the highest level of sports competition. See how that turned out.

I quoted a few facts from biological/psychological research. Then I said that it's likely that what we're seeing is mostly the effect of these biological givens. I understand the argument you're making, but I fail to see how you extrapolated that argument to people of colour? Isn't biology basically in favour of people of colour when it comes to athletics? It can't be a coincidence that most world records in athletics belong to people of colour, or is that the effect of socialisation and reverse discrimination?

On the note of separation, what league should transgenders participate in?

Whatever league they would participate in, it's all good for history. It gets a new healthy shot of conflict to keep it alive.

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It's about the extremes rather than the average; this is professional gaming, not amateur hour.

Yeah, but those sex differences which are based in hormones probably play a role even at the extremes. Ie, even the most talented gaming females are still probably less competitive than the most talented gaming males.
Also, grills probably realise early on that there's no point in trying to compete in a field for which they don't have mental/physical advantages (ie, the stuff I pointed to by quoting those pieces of research).

It's not just about gaming, there are other such fields and jobs. I haven't seen any female mechanic, for example, though I'm sure there must be some, it just doesn't seem like an interesting job for them.

This is why you will never understand discrimination. If the selection will naturally shift to a gender split, as you indicate, and might very well be true, then there is no reason to have a manmade split in place, unless it's to prevent serious physical harm. It's not because what you say discriminates against the average, it discriminates against the exception. And as your post already starts to illustrate, it shows quite clearly how people can take a biological generalisation to the extreme point of having social cultural impact. Inagine if you had a daughter, which you very well might have, its very likely you would instill these beliefs in here. She would be less likely to even try to compete. And the propheay fulfills itself. It at the least shows a poor understanding of the concept of average.

I see no reason to have gender splits in many sports. Really only fighting sports and other contact heavy sports. Most of what you say many people also thought about women and chess, and yet we have judith polgar. Even if shes only the extreme, it shows how unfair it is to her and to the spirit of competition, to exclude her from competing with best. It also makes you wonder how much of it comes down to the many hurdles of prejudice that may eventually prove too hard to overcome.

I dont believe in gender divisions in most cases, and i also dont believe that if we do divide, that there ought to be gender equal prize money, unless its an event such as the olympics.

well if there aren't gender division in sports than in almost all sports there would just be no female presence at all..........there are hardly any sports where at the top level women can compete with men. When I swam, played soccer, and played basketball up until college and in everyone of those sports once males hit about 12-14 years old they became much better than their female counter parts. I was nowhere near being collegiate level in basketball but could beat a girl who ended up player division 1 woman's basketball in 1v1 just cause I was bigger and stronger than she was. She was a more skilled player than me but lacked testosterone.

Nothing would really change i think, except that what we would call the women pro league would no just be another league, and probably not the highest one. but they can still play and compete

No thats not what would happen. Say they started allowing man into the woman's nba. What would happen is it would just become lower division NBA and literally no women would be able to play in it anymore since there are at least 10k men that are better than the best woman's player. Allowing men to play in woman's league would just turn the woman's league into another men's league, which is the reason why they're separated. I'm gonna use basketball as an example cause that's the sport I'm most familiar with, but a few years back Britney Griner was the best women's college basketball player. The general consensus was that she was about as good as the average division III men's basketball player. With 300ish teams in division I and 300ish division II teams that each have 13 scholarships that means there are a minimum 8k men that are better than her. So you really think that she would be able to play pro basketball if there wasn't a separate league for women? No she wouldn't.

she probably wouldnt, if all you did was split and then maintain the rest as the current system. In any case, what you said is basically what I said. The womens division I would become the general division III or perhaps even IV or V. What interests me then is this, how much do women in division I get paid (if any, because its college, so i dont know how this works) and how much do men in division III get paid? And how many spectators does the male division III attract, and women division I? Do you have any info on this?

They don't get paid at the collegiate level. However, in the WNBA the league mvp made about 100k and starting salary's for rookies being about 40k a year. In the NBA the league MVP signed a 5 year 200 million contract and the starting salary for rookies is about 500k. The division a school is in isn't actually based off of how good the team is, but the size of the school and the size of the stadium. Schools that are division I always have much larger stadiums. The women always attract a much small audience. My home town has historically the best womens basketball teams (or at least one of the best, theres an argument for Uconn now) and has an average attendance of about 10k. The men's basketball team is generally mediocre, but has double the attendance.

Professionally if allowed men and women to play together, there would have to be like 20 levels before you would see any women playing.

[Rikikipu]

I think for e-sport girls would reach the same level as boys, I'm pretty sure that the reaction is the same for instance. But well, I think that by nature girls are less intersted by these kind of games.

[deleted_user0]

I quoted a few facts from biological/psychological research. Then I said that it's likely that what we're seeing is mostly the effect of these biological givens. I understand the argument you're making, but I fail to see how you extrapolated that argument to people of colour?

I meant that similar arguments to your own have been used in the past, i'm not saying they're still mainstream now. People of color were excluded from competitions and scientific data was also used to justify that.

Isn't biology basically in favour of people of colour when it comes to athletics? It can't be a coincidence that most world records in athletics belong to people of colour,

It's not very strange considering they're by far and large the biggest group, population wise. 75% of the world is "people of colour" People from west africa and east africa are actually pretty different in their physical and biological make up, yet some people just lump them together when saying stuff such as "black people are athletically superior". Whether the traits are positive or negative, judging the individual based on the average results of the group you attribute them to, easily ends up with injustice against the individual.

or is that the effect of socialisation and reverse discrimination?

reverse discrimination doesn't exist. you either discriminate or you don't.

[zoom]

I especially loved using the kitchen in the Barbie-mobile. It made fun noises.

Same. I'm a homo thug.

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It's about the extremes rather than the average; this is professional gaming, not amateur hour.

Yeah, but those sex differences which are based in hormones probably play a role even at the extremes. Ie, even the most talented gaming females are still probably less competitive than the most talented gaming males.
Also, grills probably realise early on that there's no point in trying to compete in a field for which they don't have mental/physical advantages (ie, the stuff I pointed to by quoting those pieces of research).

It's not just about gaming, there are other such fields and jobs. I haven't seen any female mechanic, for example, though I'm sure there must be some, it just doesn't seem like an interesting job for them.

This is why you will never understand discrimination. If the selection will naturally shift to a gender split, as you indicate, and might very well be true, then there is no reason to have a manmade split in place, unless it's to prevent serious physical harm. It's not because what you say discriminates against the average, it discriminates against the exception. And as your post already starts to illustrate, it shows quite clearly how people can take a biological generalisation to the extreme point of having social cultural impact. Inagine if you had a daughter, which you very well might have, its very likely you would instill these beliefs in here. She would be less likely to even try to compete. And the propheay fulfills itself. It at the least shows a poor understanding of the concept of average.

I see no reason to have gender splits in many sports. Really only fighting sports and other contact heavy sports. Most of what you say many people also thought about women and chess, and yet we have judith polgar. Even if shes only the extreme, it shows how unfair it is to her and to the spirit of competition, to exclude her from competing with best. It also makes you wonder how much of it comes down to the many hurdles of prejudice that may eventually prove too hard to overcome.

I dont believe in gender divisions in most cases, and i also dont believe that if we do divide, that there ought to be gender equal prize money, unless its an event such as the olympics.

As a track & field athlete myself, there is good reasoning to divide genders...in most sports anyways. The skill gap between men and women in track & field is just so much that there is frankly no point in combining. I know many high school athletes (boys) who's times are better than women's world records. For example, the women's world record in the mile is 4:12, which is a time you see ran by high school boys quite often.

Although, I do believe prize money should not be terribly lopsided in events such as the Diamond League meets etc.

Women train very hard as professionals and deserve to be able to make a living as a professional athlete.

They deserve it if anyone is interested in admiring and watching them, same as the men. Morally I'd love to say they should make equal money, but their performance simply isn't worth as much on account of them being worse. At least things have improved, eh?

[Jam]

Kenyans always win the 10,000 m, by a large margin. Should we be upset that we will never win a medal in the 10,000m race because we aren't Kenyan, or should we just be happy that the race was won by a person who is really good at running?

[deleted_user0]

Kenyans always win the 10,000 m, by a large margin. Should we be upset that we will never win a medal in the 10,000m race because we aren't Kenyan, or should we just be happy that the race was won by a person who is really good at running?

is that why the world record is currently held by an ethiopian

[Jam]

Kenyans always win the 10,000 m, by a large margin. Should we be upset that we will never win a medal in the 10,000m race because we aren't Kenyan, or should we just be happy that the race was won by a person who is really good at running?

is that why the world record is currently held by an ethiopian

Lol, ok they both usually win and for the same reason.

[TheInvincibleJannisary]

At the end of the day, if a female wants to play video games and get good at them then nobody will stop her. She can participate in e-sports np...

I have the expirienc that mens are getting even upset when you are as a girl better than them.
Makes them pretty angry and mad... and get the flame of ur life... I played today a guy who was the bext example for this.
But im not here to blame people in the forums.

Getting flamed for winning should be a complement to you. It shows how much more superior you are to the other player if they have to resort to insulting you.

[deleted_user]

At the end of the day, if a female wants to play video games and get good at them then nobody will stop her. She can participate in e-sports np...

I have the expirienc that mens are getting even upset when you are as a girl better than them.
Makes them pretty angry and mad... and get the flame of ur life... I played today a guy who was the bext example for this.
But im not here to blame people in the forums.

Getting flamed for winning should be a complement to you. It shows how much more superior you are to the other player if they have to resort to insulting you.

I'm such a better poster than you. You suck. You're terrible. You're a trash person.

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At the end of the day, if a female wants to play video games and get good at them then nobody will stop her. She can participate in e-sports np...

I have the expirienc that mens are getting even upset when you are as a girl better than them.
Makes them pretty angry and mad... and get the flame of ur life... I played today a guy who was the bext example for this.
But im not here to blame people in the forums.

Getting flamed for winning should be a complement to you. It shows how much more superior you are to the other player if they have to resort to insulting you.

I'm such a better poster than you. You suck. You're terrible. You're a trash person.

My neighbour is a trash person and he's really nice, and it's an important job in society that needs to be done. Do you want to haul your trash to the landfill yourself?

[Dolan]

It's not very strange considering they're by far and large the biggest group, population wise. 75% of the world is "people of colour" People from west africa and east africa are actually pretty different in their physical and biological make up, yet some people just lump them together when saying stuff such as "black people are athletically superior". Whether the traits are positive or negative, judging the individual based on the average results of the group you attribute them to, easily ends up with injustice against the individual.

What I'm arguing is that there are clearly some biological differences between people which account for differences in behaviours, cultures, sports performance. In the whole history of athletics there has only been one Asian sprinter who held the 100 m world record. That has to say something about some factors which make Asians less likely to win sprint challenges, on some biological level. I mean, it can't be just culture or socialisation, obviously lots of Asians tried to become successful at it, but only one managed to reach that pinnacle of performance.

This isn't about race, not sure why you brought this subject here, when nobody even mentioned it before you brought it up. It's about different populations of people across the globe adapting differently to different climatic or environmental conditions, which made them better suited for certain tasks, like running or working in the sun. For example, melanoma, a type of skin cancer, is much less common among blacks and hispanics; sickle-cell anaemia is another example of a genetic adaptation that is more common among certain populations.

It's kinda the same with this whole argument about e-sports and males.

[AraGun]

Just like all sports, males only play at start and then there are women leagues later on when the sport is more established. Already we see a few female gamers in sc2 and other games.

[vardar]

Kenyans always win the 10,000 m, by a large margin. Should we be upset that we will never win a medal in the 10,000m race because we aren't Kenyan, or should we just be happy that the race was won by a person who is really good at running?

Actually, most 10,000m races nowadays are very close although Kenyans still do the best

If you want to see a prime example of this...look at the 3k steeplechase, Kenyans absolutely dominate this event year in and year out at Worlds, Olympics or Diamond League meets

[kami_ryu]

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[vardar]

What times do they get out of 10km?

I've been wanting to a 10km run under an hour but never got around to doing that because I'm lazy

Id say the majority of pro 10kers go around 28...guys like Mo Farah or Bekele ofc go 26:xx. The world record is 26:26 I believe (just going off of whats on the top of my head)

EDIT: I bet you could get well under an hour, just takes some pain and suffering